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of information as well as comprehension of ideas in the story. For the mastery group, this process was repeated until each student scored between 75% and 90% correct. The nonmastery group heard the story once and did the free-recall test. A week later, both groups were surprised with a written test of memory for the same items. Then students relearned under their respective conditions and finally were tested for retention again after 14 days and 28 days. Table 1.2 shows the remarkable results regarding intellectual traits and memory.5 Under nonmastery conditions—that is, a single exposure for original learning, recall after 7 days, a single relearning opportunity, and then recall after 14 and 28 days—the correlations between intellectual traits and recall are all positive and significant. That is, higher-ability students tend to remember more, as society has come to expect. In stark contrast, imposing a mastery standard of 75% to 90% correct on original learning and then again at relearning renders those standardized intellectual measures nonpredictors of how much is recalled: The correlations hover around zero and are all nonsignificant. What mastery to a high standard can do, in summary, is virtually bypass the effects of IQ for specified educational objectives. What is recalled about educational lessons is more dependent on how well the material is mastered than on such traits as rate of learning or general intellectual abilities. | |||||||
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