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LAST month I wrote about Jim Lahey, the owner of Sullivan Street Bakery on West 47th Street in Manhattan, and his clever way to produce a European-style boule at home. Mr. Lahey’s recipe calls for very little yeast, a wet dough, long rising times and baking in a closed, preheated pot. My results with Mr. Lahey’s method have been beyond satisfying. | ||||||||
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[snip] SALT Many people, me included, felt Mr. Lahey’s bread was not salty enough. Yes, you can use more salt and it won’t significantly affect the rising time. I’ve settled at just under a tablespoon. YEAST Instant yeast, called for in the recipe, is also called rapid-rise yeast. But you can use whatever yeast you like. Active dry yeast can be used without proofing (soaking it to make sure it’s active). TIMING About 18 hours is the preferred initial rising time. Some readers have cut this to as little as eight hours and reported little difference. I have not had much luck with shorter times, but I have gone nearly 24 hours without a problem. Room temperature will affect the rising time, and so will the temperature of the water you add (I start with tepid). Like many other people, I’m eager to see what effect warmer weather will have. But to those who have moved the rising dough around the room trying to find the 70-degree sweet spot: please stop. Any normal room temperature is fine. Just wait until you see bubbles and well-developed gluten — the long strands that cling to the sides of the bowl when you tilt it — before proceeding. THE SECOND RISE Mr. Lahey originally suggested one to two hours, but two to three is more like it, in my experience. (Ambient temperatures in the summer will probably knock this time down some.) Some readers almost entirely skipped this rise, shaping the dough after the first rise and letting it rest while the pot and oven preheat; this is worth trying, of course. OTHER FLOURS Up to 30 percent whole-grain flour works consistently and well, and 50 percent whole-wheat is also excellent. At least one reader used 100 percent whole-wheat and reported “great crust but somewhat inferior crumb,” which sounds promising. I’ve kept rye, which is delicious but notoriously impossible to get to rise, to about 20 percent. There is room to experiment. | |||||||
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“I’m Mark Bittman for the New York Times, and I’m at Sullivan Street Bakery in Manhattan’s Hell’s Kitchen, where owner and head baker Jim Lahey says he has a method for producing bread that, using it, a 6-year old can make better bread than almost any bakery in the country including this one.” | |||||||
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“I’m Mark Bittman for the New York Times, and I’m at Sullivan Street Bakery in Manhattan’s Hell’s Kitchen, where owner and head baker Jim Lahey says he has a method for producing bread that, using it, a 6-year old can make better bread than almost any bakery in the country including this one.”It’s definitely worth watching the video, which I think you can access from [[http://video.on.nytimes.com/ifr_main.jsp?nsid=a718aabc2:10f68975b80:-3a3b&fr_story=35eac03d90314ffed6a0c0ae143ab87b1474fb89&st=1165691615427&mp=FLV&cpf=false&fvn=9&fr=120906_021355_718aabc2x10f68975b80xw3a3a&rdm=141997.8227044062 ][this link]]. If not, you can definitely access it from Slashfood. The photo of no-knead bread at slashfood is incredible. I’ve just watched the video, and this is the recipe I put together years ago in Studio City after reading another TIMES article about ciabatta. The secret was supposed to be super-wet dough, so I used super-wet dough & didn’t knead it. It looked exactly like the dough in the video, "stringy." What I didn’t use was 20 hours rising time! If this works as well for me as it has for every food blogger on the planet, Jimmy and I may go back to baking all our bread. | |||||||
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November 8, 2006 Recipe: No-Knead Bread Adapted from Jim Lahey, Sullivan Street Bakery Time: About 1½ hours plus 14 to 20 hours’ rising 3 cups all-purpose or bread flour, more for dusting ¼ teaspoon instant yeast 1¼ teaspoons salt Cornmeal or wheat bran as needed. 1. In a large bowl combine flour, yeast and salt. Add 1 5/8 cups water, and stir until blended; dough will be shaggy and sticky. Cover bowl with plastic wrap. Let dough rest at least 12 hours, preferably about 18, at warm room temperature, about 70 degrees. 2. Dough is ready when its surface is dotted with bubbles. Lightly flour a work surface and place dough on it; sprinkle it with a little more flour and fold it over on itself once or twice. Cover loosely with plastic wrap and let rest about 15 minutes. 3. Using just enough flour to keep dough from sticking to work surface or to your fingers, gently and quickly shape dough into a ball. Generously coat a cotton towel (not terry cloth) with flour, wheat bran or cornmeal; put dough seam side down on towel and dust with more flour, bran or cornmeal. Cover with another cotton towel and let rise for about 2 hours. When it is ready, dough will be more than double in size and will not readily spring back when poked with a finger. 4. At least a half-hour before dough is ready, heat oven to 450 degrees. Put a 6- to 8-quart heavy covered pot (cast iron, enamel, Pyrex or ceramic) in oven as it heats. When dough is ready, carefully remove pot from oven. Slide your hand under towel and turn dough over into pot, seam side up; it may look like a mess, but that is O.K. Shake pan once or twice if dough is unevenly distributed; it will straighten out as it bakes. Cover with lid and bake 30 minutes, then remove lid and bake another 15 to 30 minutes, until loaf is beautifully browned. Cool on a rack. Yield: One 1½-pound loaf. | |||||||
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