Bloggers.WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.1 vs. r1.17)
Diffs

 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.17 - 17 Jan 2006 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 69 to 69




Added:
>
>

how Ben Franklin taught himself to write

Franklin was entirely self-taught.


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.16 - 04 Dec 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 69 to 69




Changed:
<
<
how Ben Frankling taught himself to write Frankling was entirely self-taught.
>
>
how Ben Franklin taught himself to write

Franklin was entirely self-taught.


He started his program of self-instruction by cutting apart other people's persuasive essays, and then trying to put the sentences & paragraphs back together in order, like a puzzle.


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.15 - 04 Dec 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 26 to 26

He was the bane of Lou Kelly's existence, and enough of a gentleman to hide the glaring fact that she was the bane of his. (The 'enough of a gentleman' part is what separates Don Ochs from Sean Connery.)

Changed:
<
<
I once had to be Talked To by Don, because a black student had accused me of racism. She was a hostile, complaining sort of girl, and one day in class she'd sighed loudly and said, 'This is boring!'
>
>
I once had to be Talked To by Don, because a black student had accused me of racism. She was a hostile, complaining sort of girl, and one day in class she'd sighed loudly and said, 'This is boring!'

Changed:
<
<
I snapped right back at her. "_Bored people_ are boring!" I said. That woke her up.
>
>
I snapped right back at her. "Bored people are boring!" I said. That woke her up.

Next thing I knew I was in Don's office.

Line: 81 to 81

The summer before last I started experimenting with this technique with Christopher, but didn't get far. For one thing, it was pretty hard, and for another I was distracted by the other things we were doing, and didn't stick with it.


Changed:
<
<
Science News for Kids
>
>
Science News for Kids


The couple of times I tried having Christopher assemble a cut-up essay, I used the articles from Science News for Kids, which are excellent. A terrific resource, some of the only decent nonfiction writing for grade school kids I've found on the web.

I may experiment with this approach again. (If you try it, use just one paragraph. It's far too confusing to use more than that.)


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.14 - 04 Dec 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic

 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.13 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 79 to 79

The summer before last I started experimenting with this technique with Christopher, but didn't get far. For one thing, it was pretty hard, and for another I was distracted by the other things we were doing, and didn't stick with it.


Changed:
<
<
Science News for Kids
>
>
Science News for Kids

The couple of times I tried having Christopher assemble a cut-up essay, I used the articles from Science News for Kids, which are excellent. A terrific resource, some of the only decent nonfiction writing for grade school kids I've found on the web.

I may experiment with this approach again. (If you try it, use just one paragraph. It's far too confusing to use more than that.)


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.12 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 13 to 13



back in the day
Changed:
<
<
I taught writing for years, btw. I taught the Freshman Rhetoric course at the University of Iowa; later on I taught freshman writing to gifted 11 & 12-year olds for the Johns Hopkins GTY program. (That was a blast.)
>
>
I taught writing for years, btw. I taught the Freshman Rhetoric course at the University of Iowa & later on a variant of that course Cal State Long Beach & UC Irvine. I also taught freshman writing to gifted 11 & 12-year olds for the Johns Hopkins GTY program. That was a blast.

In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity explains it fairly well, IIRC.


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.11 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 82 to 82

Science News for Kids The couple of times I tried having Christopher assemble a cut-up essay, I used the articles from Science News for Kids, which are excellent. A terrific resource, some of the only decent nonfiction writing for grade school kids I've found on the web.
Changed:
<
<
I may experiment with this approach again.
>
>
I may experiment with this approach again. (If you try it, use just one paragraph. It's far too confusing to use more than that.)





 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.10 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 76 to 76

I did piece it together so that it flowed logically, but I didn't re-create the author's original order, which was superior to mine.

Changed:
<
<
The summer before last I started experimenting with this technique with Christopher, but didn't get far. For one thing, it was pretty hard, and for another I was distracted by the other things we were doing, and didn't stick with it.
>
>
The summer before last I started experimenting with this technique with Christopher, but didn't get far. For one thing, it was pretty hard, and for another I was distracted by the other things we were doing, and didn't stick with it.


Science News for Kids The couple of times I tried having Christopher assemble a cut-up essay, I used the articles from Science News for Kids, which are excellent. A terrific resource, some of the only decent nonfiction writing for grade school kids I've found on the web.

I may experiment with this approach again.






 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.9 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 67 to 67




Added:
>
>
how Ben Frankling taught himself to write Frankling was entirely self-taught.

He started his program of self-instruction by cutting apart other people's persuasive essays, and then trying to put the sentences & paragraphs back together in order, like a puzzle.

I think that's a fabulous technique. It's far harder to do than it sounds. Shortly after I read about Franklin's technique i accidentally jumbled up some passages from a science article I was cutting and pasting, and when I tried to put it back together I failed.

I did piece it together so that it flowed logically, but I didn't re-create the author's original order, which was superior to mine.

The summer before last I started experimenting with this technique with Christopher, but didn't get far. For one thing, it was pretty hard, and for another I was distracted by the other things we were doing, and didn't stick with it.



-- CatherineJohnson - 14 Nov 2005


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.8 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 37 to 37



back to the future
Changed:
<
<
While I could probably go out and teach a decent expository writing course today, teaching my own eye-rolling 11-year old is a whole different story.
>
>
So while I could probably go out and teach a decent expository writing course today, teaching my own eye-rolling 11-year old is a different story.

Changed:
<
<
The eye-rolling isn't the problem, actually.
>
>
The eye-rolling isn't the problem.

It's the afterschooling.


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.7 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 27 to 27

I once had to be Talked To by Don, because a black student had accused me of racism. She was a hostile, complaining sort of girl, and one day in class she'd sighed loudly and said, 'This is boring!'

Changed:
<
<
I snapped right back, "Bored people are boring," and the next thing I knew I was in Don's office.
>
>
I snapped right back at her. "_Bored people_ are boring!" I said. That woke her up.

Changed:
<
<
He fixed his direct gaze on me and somehow managed to convey the idea that I could figure out a way to be more tactful and authoritative in my own classroom, and that was that.
>
>
Next thing I knew I was in Don's office.

Changed:
<
<
So the department revolved around these two polar opposites, and yet both agreed on a specific approach to teaching freshman writing. This made their instruction of us incredibly powerful & compelling. It was another case of binocular vision, of seeing the same ideas from different vantage points & thus understanding them far better than I would have if I'd been taught by either Lou or Don alone.
>
>
He fixed his direct gaze on me and somehow managed to convey the idea that I could figure out a way to be more tactful and more authoritative in my own classroom, and that was that.

So the department revolved around these two polar opposites, and yet both agreed on a specific approach to teaching freshman writing. This made their instruction of us novices incredibly powerful & compelling. It was another case of binocular vision, of seeing the same ideas from different vantage points & thus understanding them far better than I would have if I'd been taught by either Lou or Don alone.




back to the future

 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.6 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 17 to 17

In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity explains it fairly well, IIRC.

Changed:
<
<
Her title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs the Chair who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.
>
>
Her title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs the Chair who, looking back, was the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.

So now your eyebrows are up and your heads are spinning—this is why you come here, right?! To read stuff straight out of left field!


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.5 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 17 to 17

In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity explains it fairly well, IIRC.

Changed:
<
<
Her title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs, the Chair, who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.
>
>
Her title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs the Chair who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.

So now your eyebrows are up and your heads are spinning—this is why you come here, right?! To read stuff straight out of left field!


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.4 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 17 to 17

In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity explains it fairly well, IIRC.

Changed:
<
<
That title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs, the Chair, who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.
>
>
Her title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs, the Chair, who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.

So now your eyebrows are up and your heads are spinning—this is why you come here, right?! To read stuff straight out of left field!


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.3 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic
Line: 15 to 15

back in the day
I taught writing for years, btw. I taught the Freshman Rhetoric course at the University of Iowa; later on I taught freshman writing to gifted 11 & 12-year olds for the Johns Hopkins GTY program. (That was a blast.)
Changed:
<
<
In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity probably explains it fairly well.
>
>
In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity explains it fairly well, IIRC.

That title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs, the Chair, who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.2 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)

META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic


Changed:
<
<
Now that I know we've got an Expository Writing Problem here in Irvington, I am desperately seeking information about British writing instruction.
>
>
Now that I know we've got an Expository Writing Problem here in Irvington, I am desperately seeking information about British writing instruction.

How do they do it?


 <<O>>  Difference Topic WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage (r1.1 - 14 Nov 2005 - CatherineJohnson)
Line: 1 to 1
Added:
>
>
META TOPICPARENT WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstruction
Click here to find the comments for this topic


Now that I know we've got an Expository Writing Problem here in Irvington, I am desperately seeking information about British writing instruction.

How do they do it?

British subjects are the best writers in the English language, bar none. They're incredible.


back in the day
I taught writing for years, btw. I taught the Freshman Rhetoric course at the University of Iowa; later on I taught freshman writing to gifted 11 & 12-year olds for the Johns Hopkins GTY program. (That was a blast.)

In all of these courses I used the approach I was taught at the University of Iowa. Lou Kelly's book, From Diaglogue to Discourse: An open approach to competence and creativity probably explains it fairly well.

That title has probably raised some eyebrows around here. The Rhetoric Department was anchored by two diametrically opposed personalities, Lou Kelly, an avowed leftie-hippie with flowing gray hair whose emotions ran the gamut from furious to still-furious-again-today, and Donovan Ochs, the Chair, who, looking back, was kind of the Sean Connery of Freshman Rhetoric.

So now your eyebrows are up and your heads are spinning—this is why you come here, right?! To read stuff straight out of left field!

Back to Don: I have no idea why I came up with 'Sean Connery,' except that Don was kind of....gruffly masculine, if you know what I mean, and you probably do. Dark brow, beard, direct gaze.

He was the bane of Lou Kelly's existence, and enough of a gentleman to hide the glaring fact that she was the bane of his. (The 'enough of a gentleman' part is what separates Don Ochs from Sean Connery.)

I once had to be Talked To by Don, because a black student had accused me of racism. She was a hostile, complaining sort of girl, and one day in class she'd sighed loudly and said, 'This is boring!'

I snapped right back, "Bored people are boring," and the next thing I knew I was in Don's office.

He fixed his direct gaze on me and somehow managed to convey the idea that I could figure out a way to be more tactful and authoritative in my own classroom, and that was that.

So the department revolved around these two polar opposites, and yet both agreed on a specific approach to teaching freshman writing. This made their instruction of us incredibly powerful & compelling. It was another case of binocular vision, of seeing the same ideas from different vantage points & thus understanding them far better than I would have if I'd been taught by either Lou or Don alone.


back to the future
While I could probably go out and teach a decent expository writing course today, teaching my own eye-rolling 11-year old is a whole different story.

The eye-rolling isn't the problem, actually.

It's the afterschooling.

I need KUMON for expository writing; I need a systematic, structured program of supplemental writing instruction that can take place in 10 to 20 minutes a day.

And I don't have one.

I don't think the Brits have one, either, but I'd like to know how they do what they do.

If any of you knows anything at all about British writing instruction, please let us know.

Thanks.


brief report

[Judith] Koren describes how two British women she knows became effective essayists and speakers. “Each week, they’d had homework exercises like this: While preserving every essential point, reduce a 100-word essay to 50 words, then to 20, then to 10. Reduce 500 words to 50, 1,000 words to 100. Week after week, year after year. A grind? Sure it’s a grind. Who said literacy is easy? It takes practice. Few kids want to put in that amount of work. The schools have to demand it.” (By the way, anyone trained in this method should contact me immediately—I have a job waiting.)


And, from the same article:

In an article in The Executive Educator, an Israeli mother named Judith Koren who relocated her two children to one of the best public schools in Westchester County, New York, laments that “at the start of the U.S. school year, my son’s sixth-grade class was getting about an hour of homework a day. But after three months, a group of parents complained to the school that their children were overworked…. The teachers cut back on assignments.” She concludes that “no one expects very much of American kids,” and warns this is why U.S. students often test lower than foreign counterparts. Arriving from Israel, Koren reports, “my sixth-grader was a full year ahead of his classmates in mathematics, and my third-grader—who could barely read English on arrival—tested only six months below the class average.”



-- CatherineJohnson - 14 Nov 2005

Back to: Main Page.


Topic: WeNeedInfoOnUKWritingInstructionLogPage . { View | Diffs | r1.17 | > | r1.16 | > | r1.15 | More }

Revision r1.1 - 14 Nov 2005 - 16:39 - CatherineJohnson
Revision r1.17 - 17 Jan 2006 - 20:32 - CatherineJohnson