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You know, Catherine, in your book searches, you ought to include one on developing executive function gradually in young children. I've got one that probably falls into that category -- "Life Skills for Kids" by Christine Field -- but I wonder if there are any out there for teaching kids how to manage a home office, LOL. -- BrendaM - 23 May 2006 | |||||||
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I've been reading some interesting material suggesting that 'E.F.' can be improved.....(I have such fascinating stuff stacked up I need to get posted....) -- CatherineJohnson - 20 May 2006 | |||||||
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Sorry, I meant to get a definition up. Off the top of my head, executive function is:
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Boy, this is definitely true (that IQ and exec function aren't the same thing). Iq seems to be somewhat innate, whereas it took 40 years for my executive function to catch up with my IQ. I don't know if exec function continues to develop all through life (I'm sure it's eventually overtaken by events such as waning memory) but it seems very different from IQ in that it can really improve a great deal during the lifespan. And thank heavens, else children would never, ever grow up. -- CarolynJohnston - 20 May 2006 | |||||||
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I wasn't sure exactly how to identify "executive function" so I went searching and found a definition / description: "Executive functions are those capacities, most commonly linked to the frontal cortex, that guide complex behavior over time through planning, decision-making and response control." I met lots of very smart people in college at Caltech. At least one stands out as substantially lacking in "executive function." Seth stood at one end of a long hallway while a friend drove a golf ball through his legs. Doesn't sound so bad? It was about a 100 foot hallway, the ball went through his legs on the fly, hit the wall over the stairwell behind him, and (still on the fly) passed outside his legs on the way back. Come to think of it, both parties to this seem to lack "executive function." Seth would also seem like he wasn't paying attention much when you talked to him, but he was so smart I always attributed it to the fact that his brain was probably working on three other problems at the same time. Aside from all the studying, Caltech students do plenty of things that demonstrate that "executive function" is not the same as IQ. And that continues to develop in early adulthood. -- StephanieO - 20 May 2006 | |||||||
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executive function, IQ, and hovering - part 1Now that I've discovered MiddleWeb's article on the goodness of hovering, it's time for me finally to pull together my converging lines of evidence re:
That's going to take some doing. Let's start here: IQ and executive function are two different things. I had read this many times, but I confirmed it two weeks ago with Eric Hollander. They are separate functions of the brain. High IQ does not mean high executive function, and high executive function does not mean high IQ. You can certainly have high IQ along with high executive function, and low IQ along with low executive function. I'm guessing that if you have very low IQ - i.e. if you have mental retardation - you probably also have low executive function, but I don't know. In any case, at present, neuroscientists believe that high IQ and high executive function are separate. MORE LATER In the meantime, Elkhonon Goldberg's book on the frontal lobes & executive function is a page-turner: ![]() sources: Teenage Brain: a work in progress (NIH) frontal lobes, executive function, & IQ hovering is good (MiddleWeb) being your child's frontal lobes organization is overrated executive function, IQ, & hovering, part 1 the discovery of executive function, part 2 executive function self-test presidents & criminals & the frontal lobes ISIS initiate sustain inhibit shift page splatter page splatter & the frontal lobes Dear Abby Susan on dating Catherine's brain-based dating rule -- CatherineJohnson - 20 May 2006 <!--
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