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02 Feb 2006 - 21:39
boy trouble part 4Ed finally took a census in his class on nationalism. 60% girls, 40% boys. At NYU. We're not talking low SES here, and we're not talking 'girl subject matter.' Girls didn't used to flock to courses on nationalism. (I'm sorry if that annoys folks; I don't mean it to. I'm glad girls are taking courses on nationalism; I've managed to learn a little something about nationalism myself since 9/11. Nevertheless, 60/40 in a history course on nationalism isn't what you'd expect.) random factoid for the day from It's Payback Time by Cathy Young, an article about Christina Hoff Sommer's book The War Against Boys: More male students are "disengaged" from school, says the author, and they are pessimistic about their prospects. While boys, on average, maintain an edge on the Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT), this is largely due to the fact that more girls from disadvantaged backgrounds take the SATs, because more of them go to college. (Overall, 55 percent of bachelor's degrees awarded in 1996 -- and 64 percent for African-Americans -- went to women.) On standardized tests taken by all schoolchildren, girls are narrowing the gender gap in math and science while boys continue to lag behind, by a much wider margin, in reading and writing. competitive versus cooperative learning Then there's this, from an unedited preprint of SEXUAL SELECTION AND SEX DIFFERENCES IN MATHEMATICAL ABILITIES by David C. Geary: It was also suggested that sexual selection operated to make males more competitive than females, and, as such, might influence how boys and girls perform, in mathematics and other academic areas, in competitive and cooperative classroom environments. In keeping with this view, is the finding that the mathematical achievement of girls is the highest in cooperative settings (e.g., problem solving small groups); the performance of boys, however, drops in these setting (Peterson & Fennema 1985). Similarly, the mathematical achievement of girls drops in competitive classrooms, while the achievement of boys improves slightly. This phenomenon was on vivid display in my Singapore Math class last fall. There were 5 boys and 1 girl, and the boys loved to compete. The girl couldn't stand it. She would flat-out refuse to do timed worksheets. The whole idea made her super nervous. And she was a serious math brain. I'm working with her mother & her now, because the mom loves the Singapore Math approach & wants to learn it herself. She also wants her daughter to master her math facts, and asked me to bring timed worksheets. Turns out her daughter can't stand doing a timed worksheet even without any other kids around! It just makes her too nervous. She freezes up. I told her just to forget about the time, and do the problems. When she calmed down enough to get started, she did great. She needs practice, of course, but she's as speedy as any of the boys were, or close to. Time pressure just doesn't work for her. otoh: is fuzzy math good for boys? from Gender and Mathematics by Elizabeth Fennema, a researcher who characterizes her career thusly: My entire professional career has been predicated on the belief that women deserve equity with men in all walks of life, and that belief has informed a significant part of my scholarly activities, particularly in the area of gender and mathematics. I have always believed that I can learn how to better facilitate the learning of mathematics by females through research. Here she is on research she did in the 90s: One extensive study, Cognitively Guided Instruction (CGI) [ed.: thanks to Charles for the link], was done by Tom Carpenter, me, and several others (Fennema, Carpenter, Jacobs, Franke, & Levi, 1998). In a 3-year longitudinal study we studied teachers and their students as they progressed from Grade 1 through Grade 3 (Fennema, Carpenter, et al., 1998). Once or twice each year, children who had learned their mathematics in CGI classrooms, were asked to solve a variety of problems (number facts, addition/subtraction word problems, non-routine, and extension problems) and to report how they solved the problems. We found no gender differences in correctly solving number fact, addition/subtraction, or non-routine problems throughout the three years of the study. This finding was in agreement with literature where it has been widely reported, as well as believed, that gender differences do not emerge until early adolescence. In our study, however, each year from Grade 1 to Grade 3 we found strong and consistent gender differences in the strategies used to solve problems, with girls tending to use more concrete strategies like modeling and counting and boys tending to use more abstract strategies that reflect conceptual understanding. In other words, the mental processing of boys and girls were different, and we also found some significant achievement differences in solving extension problems. By the end of the third grade, the girls used more standard algorithms than did the boys. On the problems that required flexibility in extending one’s problem solving procedures, boys were more successful than were girls. The ability to solve the extension problems in the third grade appeared to be related to the use of invented rather than procedural algorithms in earlier grades, as both girls and boys who had used invented algorithms early were better able to solve the extension problems than those who had not. So I guess it all comes out in the wash. Boys do worse in all the small-group collaborative problem-solving confabs, but end up with admirably extended problem solving procedures in the 3rd grade anyway, while the girls are busy Following the Rules CGI was attempting to teach them to ignore.....6 of one, half dozen of the other. I guess. I haven't read either of Fennema's papers, but I've added them to The List. ![]() USA Today report on 135:100 boys:girls ratio in college sexism in Everyday Math invisible boys boy trouble (New Republic on boys) slacker boys, middle school, & forbidden positive images of boys in textbooks throw rocks at them please remain seated at all times Ann Althouse thread sums up classroom change cooperative vs. competitive learning the girl show (8th grade graduation awards) the boy show (character ed) the other boy show Where the Boys Aren't letter from Robert Lerner, former commissioner NCES Tom Mortenson's research The Boys Project board for every 100 girls — -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 Back to main page. CommentsAfter entering a comment, users can login anonymously as KtmGuest (password: guest) when prompted.Please consider registering as a regular user. Look here for syntax help. Both my classes (calculus and an honors seminar) are 70% male. University as a whole (undergrads only) is 48% male. -- RudbeckiaHirta - 02 Feb 2006 Electrical engineering was 10% female. (Me being one of them.) Interestingly, chemical and civil engineering were about 30% female. According to the nearby hairdresser, most of those female students were aiming to do the masters in environmental engineering, which required doing one of those two as your undergrad. -- TracyW - 02 Feb 2006 How many students in Ed's class? -- TracyW - 02 Feb 2006 I think it's a lot - it's a big ballyhooed course.....(they're doing some interdisiplinary, university-level course thing....) Obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about. I do know that he has more than one T.A., which means the class isn't tiny. I'll find out. -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 NYU has a huge sex imbalance, so this directly reflects that. Nevertheless, I bet when you look at calculus courses you see more guys. Even with a 60/40 student body ratio, I'd expect a closer ratio of males to females in a course on nationalism. -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 Of course, the only student who's come to his office to say he wants to be President of the United States is a guy.... -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 oh my gosh, this is awful: I happen to know that one anti-harassment curriculum she describes -- a true monstrosity which had kindergartners solemnly reciting a pledge to combat sexual harassment, and criminalized the pee-pee jokes even gender-equity experts must have told in grade school -- was introduced in a few schools in Minnesota but withdrawn after protests from parents. -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 This is exactly the kind of thing that gets you big-time pushback from parents. -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 85 kids in the class, about 50 of whom are women -- CatherineJohnson - 02 Feb 2006 We found no gender differences in correctly solving number fact, addition/subtraction, or non-routine problems throughout the three years of the study. So they did equally well, or equally poorly? -- BrendaM - 03 Feb 2006
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