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03 Aug 2005 - 00:41

metacognition and math

Steve H raised a question about overconfidence the other day (in this case, college kids assuming they know stuff they don't), which coincided with my having discovered the concept of metacognition in math ed.

I haven't had time to write anything about it yet, but metacognition is a hot topic in radical constructivism and non-radical constructivism, and it's a terrifically useful concept for me, too.

Metacognition at its simplist means knowing what you don't know.

That's probably not how most researchers would define it, but it's how I define it, and how I have defined it for a number of years now. I think the ability to know what I don't know is one of my most important skills as a journalist.

Math has me stumped. I have just about zero metacognition when it comes to math. I don't know what I don't know; I barely know what I do know.

No, that's not it; I do know what I know, I just don't know if any of it's right. In other words, I may know what I know, but should I know it?

Or should I forget it right this minute, because it's stupid, illogical, and wrong?

I don't know.

Here's Bernie Johnston:

I don't think you can ever "learn math". There's just way way too much of it. As a matter of fact, I'm certain even a professional mathematician can't learn the names of all the things that are being produced today within mathematics, let alone understand them.

The real question is: when do you know you've learned a piece of mathematics? For example, when do you know you've understood dividing fractions? As a matter of fact, you may never have "completely" understood it. That's because a successive generation may come along with a new idea which sees dividing fractions from a completely different point of view.

[For example, although the ancient Pythagoreans knew that the square root of 2 is irrational, and suspected that pi was irrational, they had no way of knowing that the former is algebraic (which means "not too irrational"), while the latter is not. They couldn't even have formulated the terms.]

I guess all that we can really aim for then is having the experience of understanding a single mathematical idea using a single point of view. At some point the additional insight gained from seeking different points of view is no longer worth the additional effort.

Mathematics is a journey, not a destination. (What can I say? I had to say it. I'm a child of the Sixties.) I guess the only sensible guideposts we have are reports from those who have already travelled down that particular path.



update: the poetry of Donald Rumsfeld

OK, first of all, as I mentioned earlier, this is a nonpartisan site.

So, yes, I see that I have typed the words DONALD RUMSFELD here in my editing window, but this is NOT to be construed as an invitation to speak of GEORGE BUSH, the IRAQ WAR, or the GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR aka the GLOBAL STRUGGLE AGAINST VIOLENT EXTREMISM.

No.

We are speaking of METACOGNITION. Still. I've typed the words Donald Rumsfeld into my edit window because it just so happens that Donald Rumsfeld is the author of my favorite poem about metacognition.


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source: The Poetry of D. H. Rumsfeld: Recent Works by the Secretary of Defense


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"Metacognition at its simplist means knowing what you don't know."

As I have always said:

The more you learn, the less you (realize that you) know. That is why I'm striving for complete ignorance.

If knowledge is defined as the ratio of what you know divided by what you realize that you don't know, then what is the limit as time t -> infinity? I don't know the form of the functions in the numerator and denominator, but I'm sure that if we applied L'Hospital's rule, we would find that the limit is zero.

Corollary:

Some people are smart enough to know they are smart, but not smart enough to know better.

Actually, as you learn more, I think it becomes less important to know a lot about what you don't know. (Does that sound good? I could do education research. It is at least better than that other report that found out that if you expect more from kids, you get more.) I'm pretty good in a certain area of mathematics, but my skills and understanding pale greatly compared to many of the names I have come across in research papers. In fact, some of their articles make me feel like I really don't know what I do know. (But, I usually can tell the difference between a poorly explained technical paper and my educational inadequacies.) When I was in school, I took a course in Linear Algebra and did very well. Later on, when I had to teach it in college, I learned so much more about linear spaces and how they tie so many things together. However, I'm sure there is a lot more I haven't even begun to understand.

If it turns out that I don't really know what I don't know, and I don't really know what I do know, then where am I? ... In therapy.

-- SteveH - 03 Aug 2005


I think one truth about math is that, no matter how much you know, you can always expect to come across new aspects of it, or to have to look at it in a different, unexpected way. It makes you feel young and ignorant again, and it keeps you from getting too arrogant, which I think is good.

-- CarolynJohnston - 03 Aug 2005

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