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23 Jun 2006 - 17:59
We have a night meeting for 7th grade
> parents during the year to disuss 8th grade. At that meeting we will discuss
> Earth Science and how our process works. I think that meeting will answer all
> of your questions.
Hi Griffin---- I’ve just re-read your email, and realize I’ve misunderstood. I took it to mean that you would be having a meeting with faculty and would then answer our questions. My mistake. Ed and I would prefer to have our questions answered now, if you don’t mind. We would also prefer to have our questions answered in a private, direct, and professional exchange, as is the custom at Dows Lane, the Main Street School, and the Irvington High School. Large public meetings are not the forum in which to engage in intimate airings of worries and hopes concerning one’s child. As I'm sure you can understand, we prefer not to sit in a large parent meeting waving our hands in the air, hoping to be called upon. Another issue: if we aren’t called upon — a distinct possibility — what then? We see no reason to spend the next 9 months in suspense, waiting to see when the meeting will take place, whether we’ll be called upon, or whether, if we are called upon, our questions will actually be answered. Our questions concern Christopher’s education; you are Christopher’s guidance counselor. Unless we misunderstand the function of a guidance counselor, you are the logical person to answer them. If there’s someone else who can better answer these questions, please let us know. Thanks — Catherine
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I think he's tired of playing with you. As I'm sure you can understand, we prefer not to sit in a large parent meeting waving our hands in the air, hoping to be called upon. This is why parents just give up after a while. I can't imagine how uneducated or non-English speaking parents ever know what's going on. I usually act like a reporter on a hot story calling everyone who could be associated with the information that I'm trying to extract (and all the while being civil and cordial and there to help!) By then, I can usually get down to the bottom of the problem and perhaps even get it resolved. -- SusanS - 22 Jun 2006
Is the an example of "your tax dollars at work"? Is there a course in avoiding answering direct questions? Does it count towards teacher certification or Professional Development credit? Perhaps Griffin could answer these questions... hum. -- NicksMama - 22 Jun 2006
Perhaps I'm stating the obvious, but it occurs to me that this is a way to track, but under the radar screen. They don't call it tracking, and they don't tell anybody that they are doing it, but if it walks like a duck . . . I can't help but notice that this is in itself a form of discovery learning, but for the parents. The parents who discover that this tracking system is taking place can possibly take appropriate measures, if they find out in time. And then for the parents who discover this is going on after the fact, the response can simply be that "your child just isn't quite ready for these challenging classes." Catherine--can I email you a story off-line? -- KarenA - 22 Jun 2006
Susan - who all do you call? Other parents, or people in the district? (Email me offline....thanks!) -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
Nicks Mama As a matter of fact, teachers and administrators are formally taught scripts for dealing with parents. The answer is yes. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
I can't help but notice that this is in itself a form of discovery learning, but for the parents. The parents who discover that this tracking system is taking place can possibly take appropriate measures, if they find out in time. And then for the parents who discover this is going on after the fact, the response can simply be that "your child just isn't quite ready for these challenging classes." yes, exactly it's absolutely discovery learning nothing of the "big picture" is ever shared with parents in Irvington, under any circumstances. I'm sure there's a terrific book on this subject somewhere. It's all a form of using knowledge - the withholding of knowledge - to exercise power. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
The new administration is profoundly secretive. I'm committed to transparency. We need a formal and informal sunshine policy in IUSFD. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
it occurs to me that this is a way to track, but under the radar screen One of the dissident moms calls it "secret tracking." None of us knows whether there is or is not secret tracking. That in and of itself is wrong. All of us should know how and why decisions concerning our kids' educations & futures are being made, and by whom. Of course, my view is that parents should be the ones making the decisions. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
news from nowhere part 17
We have a night meeting for 7th grade
> parents during the year to disuss 8th grade. At that meeting we will discuss
> Earth Science and how our process works. I think that meeting will answer all
> of your questions.
Hi Griffin---- I’ve just re-read your email, and realize I’ve misunderstood. I took it to mean that you would be having a meeting with faculty and would then answer our questions. My mistake. Ed and I would prefer to have our questions answered now, if you don’t mind. We would also prefer to have our questions answered in a private, direct, and professional exchange, as is the custom at Dows Lane, the Main Street School, and the Irvington High School. Large public meetings are not the forum in which to engage in intimate airings of worries and hopes concerning one’s child. As I'm sure you can understand, we prefer not to sit in a large parent meeting waving our hands in the air, hoping to be called upon. Another issue: if we aren’t called upon — a distinct possibility — what then? We see no reason to spend the next 9 months in suspense, waiting to see when the meeting will take place, whether we’ll be called upon, or whether, if we are called upon, our questions will actually be answered. Our questions concern Christopher’s education; you are Christopher’s guidance counselor. Unless we misunderstand the function of a guidance counselor, you are the logical person to answer them. If there’s someone else who can better answer these questions, please let us know. Thanks — Catherine
- How many children altogether were enrolled in the two sections of accelerated science this school year?
- How many children are in the 8th grade class in total?
- How many children appealed the school’s decision not to offer them seats in the class?
- How many of these children were subsequently invited to join the class?
- And: what was the gender ratio in this year’s two accelerated science classes? How many boys, how many girls?
- In what course will an 8th grade student enrolled in accelerated science be placed come 9th grade?
- In what course will an 8th grade student not enrolled in accelerated science be placed?
news from nowhere part 14
news from nowhere part 16
news from nowhere part 17
news from nowhere part 20
earthsciences
-- CatherineJohnson - 22 Jun 2006 Back to main page.
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I think he's tired of playing with you. As I'm sure you can understand, we prefer not to sit in a large parent meeting waving our hands in the air, hoping to be called upon. This is why parents just give up after a while. I can't imagine how uneducated or non-English speaking parents ever know what's going on. I usually act like a reporter on a hot story calling everyone who could be associated with the information that I'm trying to extract (and all the while being civil and cordial and there to help!) By then, I can usually get down to the bottom of the problem and perhaps even get it resolved. -- SusanS - 22 Jun 2006
Is the an example of "your tax dollars at work"? Is there a course in avoiding answering direct questions? Does it count towards teacher certification or Professional Development credit? Perhaps Griffin could answer these questions... hum. -- NicksMama - 22 Jun 2006
Perhaps I'm stating the obvious, but it occurs to me that this is a way to track, but under the radar screen. They don't call it tracking, and they don't tell anybody that they are doing it, but if it walks like a duck . . . I can't help but notice that this is in itself a form of discovery learning, but for the parents. The parents who discover that this tracking system is taking place can possibly take appropriate measures, if they find out in time. And then for the parents who discover this is going on after the fact, the response can simply be that "your child just isn't quite ready for these challenging classes." Catherine--can I email you a story off-line? -- KarenA - 22 Jun 2006
Susan - who all do you call? Other parents, or people in the district? (Email me offline....thanks!) -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
Nicks Mama As a matter of fact, teachers and administrators are formally taught scripts for dealing with parents. The answer is yes. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
I can't help but notice that this is in itself a form of discovery learning, but for the parents. The parents who discover that this tracking system is taking place can possibly take appropriate measures, if they find out in time. And then for the parents who discover this is going on after the fact, the response can simply be that "your child just isn't quite ready for these challenging classes." yes, exactly it's absolutely discovery learning nothing of the "big picture" is ever shared with parents in Irvington, under any circumstances. I'm sure there's a terrific book on this subject somewhere. It's all a form of using knowledge - the withholding of knowledge - to exercise power. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
The new administration is profoundly secretive. I'm committed to transparency. We need a formal and informal sunshine policy in IUSFD. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
it occurs to me that this is a way to track, but under the radar screen One of the dissident moms calls it "secret tracking." None of us knows whether there is or is not secret tracking. That in and of itself is wrong. All of us should know how and why decisions concerning our kids' educations & futures are being made, and by whom. Of course, my view is that parents should be the ones making the decisions. -- CatherineJohnson - 23 Jun 2006
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