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14 Jul 2006 - 14:59
read my lipsfrom the Wall Street Journal: PARIS -- The World Cup is over and Italy won. But the most gripping global sporting drama of the moment rumbled on in Paris last night: A Frenchman known to his fans as "God" [ed.: this makes BHL sound slightly less demented] went on television to explain why he rammed his shaved head into the chest of an Italian nicknamed "the animal." " Watched by spellbound fans across France and then flashed around the world, the television appearance of Zinédine Zidane was the latest episode in a fiercely fought international competition: trying to figure out why France's star soccer player blew his top during Sunday's World Cup final. The contest has featured lip readers, sociologists, philosophers and novelists .... Mr. Zidane, appearing on France's Canal Plus pay-TV, said his quarrel with Italian defender Marco Materazzi began when the Italian tugged his shirt 10 minutes from the end of the 30-minute overtime. Mr. Materazzi, according to Mr. Zidane, then insulted his mother and sister. "These were words that touched the deepest part of me," said the 34-year-old Frenchman, seeking to explain why he had head-butted the Italian and got himself thrown out of the game, the last of his long and brilliant career. "I would rather have taken a punch in the jaw than have heard that."
a Canadian moment World Cup win World Cup win part 2 BHL weighs in coupdeboule read my lips html authoring in French -- CatherineJohnson - 14 Jul 2006 Back to main page. CommentsAfter entering a comment, users can login anonymously as KtmGuest (password: guest) when prompted.Please consider registering as a regular user. Look here for syntax help. In some jurisdictions, the term for what Zidane did is "Assault with Intent to Commit Grievous Bodily Harm". Zidane clearly wanted to injure the Italian; it is mere good fortune that he didn't. His action is in no way other than the result different from what Todd Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore a couple of years ago, and there is no excuse for it. Ever. Finally, I have to say that I'm (sadly) not surprised at the French reaction. I don't intend this as a slight against the French in particular; had the teams been different, we could have seen similar reactions from Brazil, or England, or Russia, or Argentina, or Italy, or nearly anywhere else. There is a breed of fan that checks its rationality with the ticket taker. -- DougSundseth - 14 Jul 2006 Todd Bertuzzi story -- CatherineJohnson - 14 Jul 2006 I don't know.....could a head butt do that much damage? One question I have: does "coup de boule" mean head-butt for balls only, or does it include head-butting for people? (That is, I'm wondering whether head butts are an informal part of the game...) -- CatherineJohnson - 14 Jul 2006 "...could a head butt do that much damage?" Yes. When properly executed, it's tremendously dangerous. And Zidane's technique was impeccable; he's clearly had experience. -- DougSundseth - 14 Jul 2006 It can stop your heart if timed right, I believe. Or have I been watching too much CSI. -- SusanS - 14 Jul 2006 One of my friends has a best friend who's a forensic something-or-other. She sneers as CSI. -- CatherineJohnson - 24 Jul 2006 I'm pretty sure you're right about stopping the heart. I've heard of it happening to high-school kids who are hit with a baseball pitch in the chest (in just the right way, of course). And although a healthy kid probably has the best chance of a shock re-starting their heart, sometimes it just doesn't work. Google says 10-20 people die each year from this sort of accident!. -- StephanieO - 25 Jul 2006 good grief -- CatherineJohnson - 27 Jul 2006 Few people have seriously questioned the ability of the lipreader employed by the London Times. She claimed that Materazzi called Zidane "a dirty terrorist". However all the pointers are that Materazzi said something about Zidane's sister. The Italian word for sister, "sorella", can look like the Italian word for terrorist - "terrorista" - if the lipreader only catches the last 2 syllables. As a lipreader who has actually stood in Court in the UK to give evidence against the same lipreader employed by the London Times (I now live a few doors away from Carolyn, so I am safe, hopefully!) I can say without a doubt that it is impossible for any lipreader with English as a first language to claim to lipread Italian phonetically with any degree of accuracy. In fact it is difficult enough, as it is, to lipread English with any degree of accuracy unless one is totally aware of the context. ~Bosco -- BoscoKeown - 30 Jul 2006 Wow, Bosco, you have certainly led an interesting life! I'll have to get the story behind Bosco vs. the London Times lipreader. Thanks for giving 'evidence'! But it raises a question: is the London Times lipreader a native Italian speaker? And if not, can we get an Italian lipreader to weigh in? -- CarolynJohnston - 30 Jul 2006
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