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18 Sep 2006 - 18:10
Jimmy is melting. 205.5 today. His starting weight, on July 14, was somewhere in the neighborhood of 220 lbs; his height is either 5'10" or 5'11" depending upon whose memory you trust, Ed's (5'11") or mine (5'10"). UPDATE 9-18-2006: I've just realized that we probably have some newcomers because of the Shangri La posts. If you're interested, Jimmy is 19 years old and has autism. He's the young man on the left in this photograph. In that shot he weighed 218 lbs. Jimmy's nighttime bingeing is gone. We spent years of our lives dealing with a voraciously hungry very autistic young man demanding food at 10 pm every night. It was exhausting, and now it's over. A miracle. He's had med changes, which is part of it. However, those med changes happened quite some time ago, and while he had lost a few pounds after we took him off Risperdal, he had started taking Depakote for seizures, and Depakote means weight gain. He's also taking Abilify now, which can cause weight gain, although this doesn't seem to be a problem for Jimmy. In short, his weight loss had stalled when we started Shangri-La's ELOO* regimen, and he's got a lot going against him. We haven't been as consistent with the ELOO as I'd like, but we have managed to get one 2 TBSP "dose" of ELOO into Jimmy at least 5 days a week. What's strange is that we seem to have an accelerating curve. (Is that the correct terminology? And does this look like an accelerating curve? Maybe not. I haven't done the math...his weight loss may be stable across the weeks.) Accelerating curve or no, I've never heard of an uninterrupted downward curve in weight loss. Ever. Normally, with diets, you're talking plateaus.
Plateauville Speaking of plateaus, Christopher and I have flatlined. Up a pound, down a pound, up .5 pounds, up .5 pounds again, etc. I am experiencing the trauma of eventlessness. blech However, I discovered today, while checking BMIs, that Christopher has in fact crossed the line from "offically overweight" to "at risk of overweight." This means that on Shangri-La he rapidly lost his overweight, then plateaued. update 9-18-2006: Christopher told us this morning that none of the kids are calling him "fat" this year, and that makes sense to me. By the charts he's still quite heavy, but he's moved out of the category of kids heavy enough to get teased. One more anecdote: last summer, at the very end of day camp, the kids played a game of touch football. Christopher was on the "skins" team, meaning his team took off their shirts to play. That was the first time all summer that nobody called him "fat" when he took off his shirt. I'm trying to move to the bottom of the BMI category for my own height, so I'm in a different category altogether.**
To calculate Jimmy's BMI & my own I'm using NHLBI's website. For Christopher I use the children's BMI calculator at the UCI General Clinical Research Center. UCI has growth charts and a succinct explanation of what the feds consider overweight and "at risk for overweight" to be.
UPDATE 4:36 pm Ed came back from Costco with a pair of Calvin Klein jeans for Jimmy, waist size 38. They fit. Two months ago he was wearing size 42.
UPDATE 9-18-2006 Last night Jimmy was standing around chanting, "I'm not heavy I'm not heavy I'm not heavy." Sometimes it's scary how much he's taking in.
* extra light olive oil ** another fyi for Shangri-La readers: I'm trying to move from a BMI of 21.5 to BMI 20, because of a genetic vulnerability to Type 2 diabetes.
The Shangri-La Diet at Amazon
Seth Roberts website
Shangri La diet in freakonomics
Shangri La diet part 2
early adopter
diet, evolution of the brain, & McDonalds
Marginal Revolution on Shangri La
your own lying eyes
progress report 7-23-06
Jimmy 7-24-06
mind hacks & Shangri-La 7-26-06
7-29-06 update
my life and welcome to it - 8-6-06 - success
compare and contrast photo op 8-12-06
9-12-06 update
9-17-06 Jimmy is melting
10-4-2006 Dr. Erika's olive oil diet works, too
key word: shangrila (one word, no space)
complete shangri-la thread
Catherine/Jimmy/Christopher weight loss thread at fatnews.com
-- CatherineJohnson - 17 Sep 2006 Back to main page.
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Neat! Enjoyed your posts on the SLD. -- KtmGuest - 17 Sep 2006
And does this look like an accelerating curve? It looks like an accelerating curve to me, if you calculate weight-loss as a percentage of bodymass. However, just because a graph shows a trend doesn't tell you much at all about what will happen in the future. (Eg the temperature has risen considerably since I went out at 6.15 this morning. That does not mean that it'll be boiling by 6 pm tonight). You need to look at the underlying process to make such predictions. I have no idea what the underlying process is for Jimmy's weight loss, though I suspect that if he starts looking like a fashion model his parents will take him off the diet. -- TracyW - 17 Sep 2006
We realized this morning that he's the thinnest he's been since gaining all his weight in the first place. Two summers ago I was able to whittle him down to 204, but I'm almost positive he was shorter then (and perhaps lower muscle mass? Risperal probably makes a difference there, too.) It's a bizarre change. He's starting to look tall and thin. That just goes to show how much our perceptions have changed over the years, with people getting heavier. Jimmy is quite overweight. But he's wearing the oversized hip-hop clothes, and he looks great. -- CatherineJohnson - 18 Sep 2006
Shangri La La La
Jimmy is melting. 205.5 today. His starting weight, on July 14, was somewhere in the neighborhood of 220 lbs; his height is either 5'10" or 5'11" depending upon whose memory you trust, Ed's (5'11") or mine (5'10"). UPDATE 9-18-2006: I've just realized that we probably have some newcomers because of the Shangri La posts. If you're interested, Jimmy is 19 years old and has autism. He's the young man on the left in this photograph. In that shot he weighed 218 lbs. Jimmy's nighttime bingeing is gone. We spent years of our lives dealing with a voraciously hungry very autistic young man demanding food at 10 pm every night. It was exhausting, and now it's over. A miracle. He's had med changes, which is part of it. However, those med changes happened quite some time ago, and while he had lost a few pounds after we took him off Risperdal, he had started taking Depakote for seizures, and Depakote means weight gain. He's also taking Abilify now, which can cause weight gain, although this doesn't seem to be a problem for Jimmy. In short, his weight loss had stalled when we started Shangri-La's ELOO* regimen, and he's got a lot going against him. We haven't been as consistent with the ELOO as I'd like, but we have managed to get one 2 TBSP "dose" of ELOO into Jimmy at least 5 days a week. What's strange is that we seem to have an accelerating curve. (Is that the correct terminology? And does this look like an accelerating curve? Maybe not. I haven't done the math...his weight loss may be stable across the weeks.) Accelerating curve or no, I've never heard of an uninterrupted downward curve in weight loss. Ever. Normally, with diets, you're talking plateaus.
Plateauville Speaking of plateaus, Christopher and I have flatlined. Up a pound, down a pound, up .5 pounds, up .5 pounds again, etc. I am experiencing the trauma of eventlessness. blech However, I discovered today, while checking BMIs, that Christopher has in fact crossed the line from "offically overweight" to "at risk of overweight." This means that on Shangri-La he rapidly lost his overweight, then plateaued. update 9-18-2006: Christopher told us this morning that none of the kids are calling him "fat" this year, and that makes sense to me. By the charts he's still quite heavy, but he's moved out of the category of kids heavy enough to get teased. One more anecdote: last summer, at the very end of day camp, the kids played a game of touch football. Christopher was on the "skins" team, meaning his team took off their shirts to play. That was the first time all summer that nobody called him "fat" when he took off his shirt. I'm trying to move to the bottom of the BMI category for my own height, so I'm in a different category altogether.**
To calculate Jimmy's BMI & my own I'm using NHLBI's website. For Christopher I use the children's BMI calculator at the UCI General Clinical Research Center. UCI has growth charts and a succinct explanation of what the feds consider overweight and "at risk for overweight" to be.
UPDATE 4:36 pm Ed came back from Costco with a pair of Calvin Klein jeans for Jimmy, waist size 38. They fit. Two months ago he was wearing size 42.
UPDATE 9-18-2006 Last night Jimmy was standing around chanting, "I'm not heavy I'm not heavy I'm not heavy." Sometimes it's scary how much he's taking in.
* extra light olive oil ** another fyi for Shangri-La readers: I'm trying to move from a BMI of 21.5 to BMI 20, because of a genetic vulnerability to Type 2 diabetes.
The Shangri-La Diet at Amazon
Seth Roberts website
Shangri La diet in freakonomics
Shangri La diet part 2
early adopter
diet, evolution of the brain, & McDonalds
Marginal Revolution on Shangri La
your own lying eyes
progress report 7-23-06
Jimmy 7-24-06
mind hacks & Shangri-La 7-26-06
7-29-06 update
my life and welcome to it - 8-6-06 - success
compare and contrast photo op 8-12-06
9-12-06 update
9-17-06 Jimmy is melting
10-4-2006 Dr. Erika's olive oil diet works, too
key word: shangrila (one word, no space)
complete shangri-la thread
Catherine/Jimmy/Christopher weight loss thread at fatnews.com
-- CatherineJohnson - 17 Sep 2006 Back to main page.
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Neat! Enjoyed your posts on the SLD. -- KtmGuest - 17 Sep 2006
And does this look like an accelerating curve? It looks like an accelerating curve to me, if you calculate weight-loss as a percentage of bodymass. However, just because a graph shows a trend doesn't tell you much at all about what will happen in the future. (Eg the temperature has risen considerably since I went out at 6.15 this morning. That does not mean that it'll be boiling by 6 pm tonight). You need to look at the underlying process to make such predictions. I have no idea what the underlying process is for Jimmy's weight loss, though I suspect that if he starts looking like a fashion model his parents will take him off the diet. -- TracyW - 17 Sep 2006
We realized this morning that he's the thinnest he's been since gaining all his weight in the first place. Two summers ago I was able to whittle him down to 204, but I'm almost positive he was shorter then (and perhaps lower muscle mass? Risperal probably makes a difference there, too.) It's a bizarre change. He's starting to look tall and thin. That just goes to show how much our perceptions have changed over the years, with people getting heavier. Jimmy is quite overweight. But he's wearing the oversized hip-hop clothes, and he looks great. -- CatherineJohnson - 18 Sep 2006
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