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CompareAndContrast 10 Oct 2006 - 01:52 CatherineJohnson
problems in three grade 5 textbooks
from the last page of Primary Mathematics 5B (U.S. Edition):
18. A fish tank is 2/5 full after Sara poured 14 gal of water into it. What is the full capacity of the tank in gallons?
final problem in Saxon Homeschool Math 6/5 3rd Edition:
Change each of these base 10 numbers to base 5:
a. 31
b. 51
c. 10
d. 100
e. 38
f. 86
from the last page of Math Trailblazers Grade 5:
4. Write a paragraph comparing two pieces of work in your portfolio that are alike in some way. For example, you can compare two labs or your solutions to two problems you solved. One piece should be new and one should be from the beginning of the year. Use these questions to help you write your paragraph:
Which two pieces did you choose to compare?
How are they alike? How are they different?
Do you see any improvement in the newest piece of work as compared to the older work? Explain.
If you could redo the older piece of work, how would you improve it?
How could you improve the newer piece of work?
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BarModelingVsGraphing (interesting comments from a KTM reader)
HowToGetParentBuyIn
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BigNumbers
ProfoundUnderstandingFundamentalMathematics 16 Sep 2006 - 19:54 CatherineJohnson
Carolyn mentioned Liping Ma's concept of 'profound understanding of fundamental mathematics' (PUFM).
This chart is Ma's map of the 'knowledge package' Chinese teachers possess for the topic of subtraction. This is what Chinese mathematics teachers know and understand about subtraction.
I don't happen to have this knowledge package inside my own head, and neither does any other parent I know.
This is why it won't do to say:
One way to understand a math program like EM is to read through and do the exercises in the curriculum consecutively, openmindedly as a learner, not as an assessor. Play with the manipulatives, perhaps even borrow a teaching guide. These programs are much different, and much more exciting than the way we were taught. They are also very hard to describe. With some study, you might find yourself a great parent contributor to something your children's school is attempting to perfect.
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Chinese math teachers develop pedagogical content knowledge over the course of many years teaching and studying elementary mathematics.
There are no shortcuts.
How long does it take to acquire a profound understanding of fundamental mathematics?
I'm guessing 10:
Some evidence that a great deal of practice, and not just talent, is a prerequisite for expertise is the "ten year rule," which states that individuals must practice intensively for at least 10 years before they are ready to make a substantive contribution to their field. What about prodigies like Mozart, who began composing at the age of six? Prodigies are very advanced for their age, but their contributions to their respective fields as children are widely considered to be ordinary. It is not until they are older (and have practiced more) that they achieve the works for which they are known.
+ + +
No parent is going to pick up a copy of Everyday Math, read through the book, work the exercises, and be ready to teach or tutor the curriculum effectively.
That's not the way it works.
Parents have a fighting chance of teaching or tutoring effectively with a direct-instruction curriculum like Saxon Math. We have that chance because the books are written so that anyone who's been through grade school can understand what the lessons are about.
None of us is going to do a brilliant job teaching math using Saxon. Becoming brilliant at anything takes 10 years.
But we can help our children learn math.
It's not just children who need direct instruction. Parents need it, too. We parents need to be able to pick up our child's mathematics textbook, read the lesson, and know what it's talking about.
That school districts consciously select unproved mathematics curricula they know parents will not understand and will not be able to teach or tutor from is, to me, unconscionable.
It's not up to us to go begging for a peek at the teacher's guide.
It's up to our schools to bring us into the loop.
SingaporeMathPlacementTest 16 Jul 2006 - 20:45 CatherineJohnson
The placement test for Singapore Math is here, along with basic info about the curriculum.
A very useful Quick Guide is here.
Boiling it down:
- Each grade uses two textbooks (and corresponding workbooks) per grade, labeled A & B. 'A' is used in the fall semester, 'B' in the spring semester.
I think it's a terrific idea to order, as well, one of the Challenging Word Problems books, and ask your child to do one bar model a day. That's what I'm doing with Christopher, and with me, too.
I finished the entire 3rd grade book of Challenging Word Problems -- all 268 of them -- on Saturday!
[update: When I say 'I,' I mean me, Catherine. I did the problems myself. I've only managed to haul Christopher through 10 or 15 bar models so far.]
Now, when I see a problem like 'There were 33 children in Mrs. Jones's class, 5 more boys than girls. How many girls were in Mrs. Jones's class?' an image of a bar model instantly pops into my head.
I think that's a good thing.
On the other hand, I'm having serious trouble summoning a bar model for a rate-and-distance problem in the opening review material in Mathematics 6, the newly translated Russian text.
Sigh.
There are a couple of other Singapore Math books for parents that I think are terrific. More on that later.
FreeWorksheets
TreadingWater
SummerSupplement
SummerSupplementTime
SummerSupplementTimePart2
SummerSupplementTimePart3
SummerSupplementTimePart4 (resources for kids who have fallen behind)
SummerSupplementTimePart5 (resources for preventing summer regression)
SaxonPlacementTestsAndGuides
TeachYourChildToTypeThisSummer
advice on Singapore Math 6-2005
Singapore Math book recommendations in a nutshell
CompareAndContrastPart2 09 Jul 2005 - 13:26 CatherineJohnson
I've been searching for some good examples of bar models to illustrate Carolyn's SummerMathChallenge post, and I just came across this page from the Primary Mathematics Grade 2A workbook.
Mind you, '2A' is the workbook for the first half of 2nd grade. Second semester is '2B'.
update 7-5-06: The original image has disappeared, so I'm replacing it with this "worked problem" from Challenging Word Problems Primary 2:
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CompareAndContrastPart3 10 Oct 2006 - 01:52 CatherineJohnson
This page is from the Grade 6, second semester workbook for Primary Mathematics.
Children in Singapore do not use calculators to work these problems. update 7-5-06: the page I linked to in June 2005 has disappeared, and I don't remember what was on it. The page shown here now is different...

This answer sheet is no longer relevant:
AnswerSheetFractions6B
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See also:
DontRelyOnStateTests
PenfieldParents
NewYorkStateMathCurricula
FriendlyFractions
PaperFractions
ADifficultChild
ADifficultChildPart2
WorksheetsForSummer
AssessYourChildForFree
AssessYourChildForFreePart2
BonusOnlineAssessmentQuestions
CompareAndContrastPart5 09 Jul 2005 - 13:34 CatherineJohnson
from Ralph Raimi's article for the Penfield Post, Why Penfield's kids aren't learning math (thanks to Elizabeth Carson, co-founder of NYC HOLD):
TERC (Grade 5, “Suitable for Grade 6”, too)
Number of students in your class ____________
Suppose you get 6 cents for each bottle you return for recycling. For each problem show how you found your solution.
1. You have collected 149 bottles. How much will you earn?
2. If you share what you earn with one friend, how much will each person get?
3. If you share what you earn with two friends, how much will each person get?
4. Find the fairest way to share what you have earned with everyone in our class, so there is no money left over. How much will each person get?
Singapore (Workbook Grade 5B)
24. Adam bought 8 note pads at $1.45 each and 10 towels. He gave the cashier $100 and received $46 change. Find the cost of a towel.
25. A group of children went swimming. 3/8 of them were girls. If there were 40 boys, how many children were there altogether?
26. Three boys, Juan, Seth and Jared shared a number of stamps in the ratio 3:5:7. If Seth received 45 stamps, how many more stamps did Jared receive than Juan?
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AnneDwyerSingaporeMathClassPart2 13 Nov 2005 - 18:43 CatherineJohnson
I just noticed that Anne Dwyer has new material on her summer course over on her wiki page.
Go take a look!
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SingaporeWordProblemSampler1 14 Jul 2005 - 03:19 CarolynJohnston
This is a sampler of randomly chosen word problems from the "Primary Mathematics Challenging Word Problems" series. I'm just going to open the books, and write what I see.
For tonight's problem, pick one and give it to your kid, or try one yourself.
For bonus points, spot the problem that was not written by a native English speaker.
Grade 3: String X is 34 cm longer than String Y. String Z is 58 cm longer than string Y. If the total length of Strings X, Y, and Z is 233 cm, find the total length of Strings X and Z. (!!! OK, that was from the 'challenging problems' section of a 'challenging problems' book. Excuses, excuses)
Grade 4: Jane has 70 balloons. 1/10th of them are green, and 3/5 of them are orange. How many more orange balloons than green balloons does she have?
Grade 5: A man bought a dozen sacks of rice at $18 per sack. Each sack of rice weighed 20 kg. He packed half of the rice into bags of 5 kg and sold them at 6.50 per bag. He sold the rest of the rice at $1.50 per kg. Find his total profit.
Grade 6: Henry has 3/4 as many paper clips as Joyce. Joyce has 4/5 as many as Claire. If the three girls have 96 paper clips altogether, how many fewer paper clips does Henry have than Claire?
SummerSupplementTimePart6 13 Nov 2005 - 19:51 CatherineJohnson
Two books Anne Dwyer is using this summer:
BTW, I got most of my games and ideas from two sources. The first was a book I got out of the library. Games for Math by Peggy Kaye. The second source is Primary Mathematics 2A Home Educator Support Guide by Jennifer Hoerst. It turns out that the Singapore Math website sells these separate books by Sonlight Curriculum.
update
Games for Math, I see, was first published in 1988.
I have a rule that any book that's stayed in print longer than 5 years is likely to be worthwhile.
This is so because books are more or less like magazines; they're seasonal. Few stay in print longer than the year they spend in hardback and another couple of years in paper.
The only reason a book lasts longer than that is that people want it, and continue to buy it.
Buying a book that has stayed in print for 17 years is like picking the restaurant with the line out the door instead of the one with two tables filled.
FourthGradeSlumpPart2 14 Nov 2005 - 17:03 CatherineJohnson
Percentage comparisons of students who scored in the top 10 percent of fourth-graders among the 26 TIMSS countries also show that the United States is lagging. In math, only 9 percent of U.S. Fourth-graders were among the top 10 percent, compared to Singapore’s 39 percent, Korea’s 26 percent, and Japan’s 23 percent. At the eighth-grade level, only 5 percent of U.S. Students were included in this bracket . . . once again confirming that U.S. students do not fare well in international comparisons and drop in rankings the further along they are in school.(14)
source:
SCHOOL FIGURES: THE DATA BEHIND THE DEBATE BY Hanna Skandera & Richard Sousa
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CompareAndContrastPart6 10 Oct 2006 - 01:53 CatherineJohnson
math facts in Singapore, grade 3:
Studying Exhibit 3 in the big Singapore Math Report (pdf file), we learn that:
Singapore students master multiplication tables up to 10 x 10 in grade 3
math facts in Math Trailblazers, grade 5:
To be honest, it's difficult to say what, precisely, the MATH TRAILBLAZERS schedule actually is. It seems to vary from one document to another.
I did find this TRAILBLAZERS playlet on page 260 of the 5th grade TIMS Tutor: Math Facts (pdf file).
Suzanne: But the facts with nines are harder. I have to think about them, but I use the tens to make them easier.
Teacher: How, Suzanne?
Suzanne: Well, when I see 15 – 9, I think, “What do I need to get from 9 to 15?” I use counting up: from 9 to 10 is 1 and from 10 to 15 is five more. So, I get 6.
That's 5th grade, folks.
update 11-2005
I talked to a friend whose son is in second grade. He's a brainy kid who loves math, but he can't use the addition algorithm. Apparently, the algorithm hasn't been taught. If he's adding numbers smaller than 20, he counts on his fingers and toes. If the numbers are larger than 20, say 12 + 19, he draws 12 circles, then 19 circles, and finally counts them. Same process for subtraction, only in reverse. 63 - 19 means drawing 63 circles, then crossing out 19 of them.
The kids have the triangular flash cards that portray number families, and her son is working on flashcards with numbers 1 - 10. A friend of hers whose child is in 3rd grade told her the children in her child's class are working on the exact same cards.
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BestMentalMathBook 13 Nov 2005 - 19:50 CatherineJohnson
Arithmetricks : 50 Easy Ways to Add, Subtract, Multiply, and Divide Without a Calculator
by Edward H. Julius
Last fall I got on a mental math kick.
Singapore Math does a lot of mental math, and Saxon opens each lesson with a mental math warm-up.
The constructivists seem to believe in mental math, too.
[pause]
OK, I just Googled 'Constance Kamii,' and yes indeed the constructivists are HUGE mental mathies.
Here's what Parker & Baldridge have to say about mental math:
'Mental Math' means just that: doing calculations in your head. Solving problems mentally is a remarkably effective way to learn place value skills and the use of the distributive property. As students practice mental math they develop quick and flexible ways of doing simple arithmetic, and their understanding of arithmetic deepens. Mental Math is particularly appropriate with young children because it does not require reading or writing skills. For these reasons, Mental Math problems are incorporated into nearly all elementary school mathematics programs. (p. 43)
All of this struck (and strikes) me as correct, so I got on a mental math quest that resulted in the purchase of at least 3 different books, maybe more. (I don't like to think about it.)
Of those, Arithmetricks is the ONE. It's the clearest, easiest to use, and, IMO, has the most 'educational value'...meaning I used it in my Singapore Math class to try to teach the distributive & commutative properties & place value.
Not just party tricks.
Obviously, all mental math is real math, not tricks. But I wanted 'arithmetricks' my elementary school kids would be able to understand, not just memorize.
The funny thing is, I had to use paperandpencil to make this work.
All of the kids had mastered their math facts and the algorithms (I was VERY impressed with Irvington teachers after that class, let me tell you).
So the only way to find out if they'd used the arithmetrick I'd just taught them to do a calculation, or had visualized a two-column addition or subtraction or multiplication problem in their mind's eye and done it that way, was to make them write down the steps they'd used after they'd used them.
Life is never simple.
update
I'm pretty sure I'm right about Arithmetricks, because it has a blurb on the cover from Jaime Escalante.
update 2
I just noticed that Frog Publications, publishers of the Drops in the Bucket series Carolyn likes, has a mental math series, too:
(click on the image)
I think that's adorable.
WickelgrenOnIntroducingAlgebra 08 Jul 2005 - 17:19 CarolynJohnston
I've been looking again at one of Catherine's favorite books, Math Coach (by Wayne and Ingrid Wickelgren).
Wayne and Ingrid have a lot to say about what they consider the most difficult aspects of elementary math -- long division and fraction manipulation. But it's what comes after that that interests me now: their discussion of the importance of teaching algebra early. Wayne suggests that the most important thing you can show your kid, what should motivate them most to want to continue in math, is the power of algebra to solve hard problems.
Most problems in prealgebra and early algebra start out something like this:
John is 27 years old. If his age is 3 times Pete's age, how old is Pete?
If you have a kid like Christopher or Ben, you know he's going to spit out the answer on the spot and tell you not to waste his time with this stupid letter stuff.
That's why Wayne Wickelgren suggests that, when you're ready to introduce your kid to the notion of algebra, the first thing you should do is sit down with him and let him watch you do a problem like this one:
In two years, Jean will be twice as old as Chris will be. In six years, Jean will be four times as old as Chris was last year. How old is Chris now?
In short, start with a demonstration of how algebra-at-your-fingertips gives you mindblowing powers. I was reading this last night and thinking: if I tell him that this problem is what algebra is all about, Ben will be blown away. Why scare him off? Maybe start with something simpler...
But the hard thing about this sort of problem isn't going to be doing the algebra: it's going to be setting up the equations, given the word problem. And that's going to be hard no matter how I try to teach it. Doing the mindless rote stuff required to crank out the answer, once you have the equations, is the easiest part of the problem. And I know Ben: he'll think that's the cool part.
Given that, I can't see a reason to hold off introducing algebra. Once a kid is at the sixth or seventh grade level in math, the heck with guess-and-check and pan-balance problems; the heck even with bar models. The most general tool that we currently have for solving word problems, and the only one that we have that isn't stymied by some word problem or other, is algebra. He may as well be motivated to go full speed ahead with the letters and symbols. Wickelgren says that algebra is the key to the castle; it's the most effective means for solving tricky math problems that's ever been devised. As such, you want it to be the tool that kids reach for instinctively when they have a tricky math problem to solve.
Here's a quote from a great article by Ethan Akin, "In Defense of Mindless Rote":
On the other hand, mathematics is cumulative and there are a great many skills that you have be unthinkingly familiar with. Every grumpy calculus teacher will tell you that most of the problems his students have come from weaknesses in algebra. For the students who say "I really understand it but...." the but is that for them algebra is not easy background knowledge. They are trying to build on a foundation of dust. A lot of college majors need a bit of calculus or statistics which are simply walled off to students who don't have sufficient skills in algebra. These are basically not hard subjects but they appear unnecessarily terrifying to such students.
Conversely, a practiced facility with algebra can provide its own positive reinforcement. Not only is the mathematics built on the algebra, but facility in algebra gives the student confidence in the face of new mathematical challenges. As the above discussion makes clear, such confidence is entirely justified.
I am motivated now to try to introduce real algebra by the end of the summer. No more pussyfooting around!
Wickelgren on introducing algebra
Wayne Wickelgren on algebra in 7th & 8th grade
Wickelgren on math talent & when to supplement
late bloomers in math & Wickelgren on children's desire to learn math
Wayne Wickelgren on mastery of math & on creativity & domain knowledge
Wickelgren on why math is confusing
SingaporeWordProblemSampler2 14 Jul 2005 - 03:19 CarolynJohnston
Here's another random sampling of word problems from "Primary Mathematics, Challenging Word Problems".
A KtmGuest (henceforth known as 'Lone Ranger') left the following useful comment on the SummerProgramUpdate thread:
FYI...Singapore Math is organized differently than American elementary math textbooks. The book are arranged in this order 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B...6A,6B. When a student is finished with 6B, that student is ready to begin studying Algebra. Therefore the number on the book does not translate into an American grade level. In fact many people comment that children begin the Singapore program 1 number below their current grade. My child began with level 2B even though she was starting 4th grade.
(thanks, kemosabe).
So who knows what American grades these problems match up to? Just target the problem that suits your kid, and don't worry about whether they're behind what kids are doing in Singapore.
Primary 3: The capacity of a bucket is 9 qt. If 3 qt. 3 c. are added into the bucket, how much more water is needed to make it full?
(I like that last problem because it ties in with this recent post.)
And here is a rather strange one:
Primary 4: 5/9 of a box of chocolates are round, and 2/9 are square. How many more chocolates are round than square? Give your answer as a fraction.
Primary 5: Martin and Gary had 80 stickers altogether. After Martin gave away 35 of his stickers and Gary gave away 1/5 of his stickers, they had the same number of stickers left. How many stickers did Martin have at first?
Primary 6: Linda and Jane set off from City P to City Q at the same time. When Linda reached City Q, Jane was still 140 km away. 2 hours later, Jane also reached City Q. If Cities P and Q were 630 km apart, at what speed was Linda traveling?
MeasurementAdviceFromCarlL 08 Jul 2005 - 21:46 CatherineJohnson
Re: Measurement
My first year teaching high school freshman (I just finished my 3rd year at a urban neighborhood school) I was completely shocked that none, and I mean none, of the kids could measure using an inches ruler.
How can they get out of middle school, or even grade school, not knowing how to measure? I still have no clue. I doubt its the constructivists fault due to their fondess for hands-on, manipulatives, and project, which all lend themselves to measurement.
What I have observed:
- Metric OK, Inches Not -- While the kids can't (or won't) measure in inches, many (but not all) can measure using a centimeter ruler. Fractions rear their ugly head again.
- Estimation, Schmestimation -- The kids do not know when it is, or is not, appropriate to estimate. The kids have trouble estimating measurements between the lines of the ruler. But the kids are very willing to make bad estimates to avoid having to figure out what the little lines mean. 2 5/16 inevitably becomes 2 1/2.
- What is a protractor? -- The kids REALLY don't know how to use a protractor (except as a frisbee). Most don't even know that its purpose is to measure angles.
A side note related, I believe, to measurement. Each year I do a lesson where we compare the kids height in inches to their shoe size. The majority of the kids do not know how tall they are, let alone how to convert the height in inches.
So by all means get a ruler, protractor, some measuring cups and spoons, and a kitchen scale (or even better a pan balance) and start measuring everything around the house!
I intend to take this advice.
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SybillaBeckmannArticleBarModeling 13 Nov 2005 - 18:48 CatherineJohnson
Terrific article on Singapore Math's bar modeling technique:
Solving Algebra and Other Story Problems with Simple Diagrams: a Method Demonstrated in Grade 4-6 Texts Used in Singapore (pdf file) by Sybilla Beckmann.
Short and readable.
I've found that sometimes only the first page of the article opens, so if you have that problem, let me know. I can attach a copy of the text to KTM.
SingaporeWordProblemSampler3 14 Jul 2005 - 03:20 CarolynJohnston
Note: solutions to the problems from SingaporeWordProblemSampler2 have been posted here.
So here's a whole new set of problems!
Primary 3: Margo has 3 times as many pears as apples. If she has 84 pears and apples altogether, how many pears does she have?
Primary 4: A cake was cut into 12 equal pieces. Jim ate two pieces and Tom ate four pieces. What fraction of the cake was left?
Primary 5: A bag of potatoes weighs 7/8 kg.. A bag of yams weighs 4/5 as much as the bag of potatoes. Find the total weight of the bag of potatoes and the bag of yams.
Primary 6: Eric has 75% as much money as Joshua. Carl has 60% as much money as Eric and Joshua have together. If Eric has 36 dollars less than Carl, how much money does Joshua have?
I don't know about you all, but I think I perceive these Singapore math problems becoming markedly harder at level 5.
HappyJulyFourth 22 Jul 2005 - 18:04 CatherineJohnson
notes from Lone Ranger on homeschooling her daughters using Singapore Math:
Just a quick note that I didn't know where to put on this forum. I started homeschooling my daughter in August 2004. She had been in public school since kindergarten and was a rising 4th grader when we started homeschooling. She had suffered through 3 years of "Math Their Way" and then 1 year of "Everyday Math" before I woke up to the fact that she was not learning math well. Her third grade test scores showed her to be working at the 50% in math. Well, after one year of homeschooling using only Singapore Math Levels 2B- half of 4A and supplementing with Singapore Math's Intensive Practice her total math score on the Iowa Test of Basic skills is now at the 99%!! More importantly her confidence, fluency, and ability to work through difficult problems have gone through the ceiling as well. Happy 4th of July

We are taking home educating one year at a time. This coming year we will home educate again using Singapore Math. I am quite impressed with the program. At first glance it looks rather simplistic and lacking in review. However, I have found it to be very systematic in its presentation and its ability to build understanding is amazing. This is not your inch deep mile wide program at all. The review is there but usually disguised in word problems. Our school system is in terrible distress and using constuctivist math and science, whole language, and very little basics. The private schools are full and all but one have selected curricula I cannot tolerate. So for now it's home schooling. I'd love to hear what other people are using for high school level math. I keep hearing about the following titles: Jacobs Algebra and Video Text. What are good programs? Lone Ranger
I used Singapore math books 2B, 3A, 3B and half of 4A before having my daughter take the ITBS test. She completed the 2B placement exam but took 3 times as much time to complete it as was recommended. I thought better to start her slightly below her level to build confidence, learn the rod diagrams, and build speed and fluency with her facts and basic procedures. We also used Intensive Practice books 2B, 3A, 3B, and part of 4A (not every problem though) I made the decison to use Singapore because through my research 2 titles kept appearing over and over: Saxon and Singapore. Saxon is expensive and did not seem to be a good fit for my youngest daughter. Singapore seemed to be the best one to try first, since I wouldn't be out a lot of money if it flopped! Not very scientific or glamorous but the truth. Once I worked with the program and saw the children's response to it I was sold. I am average in my math ability and studied through Trig in college. I think at first Singapore can be intimidating, but after working with it, it is fairly straightforward. I used the Instructor Guide for 2B and have not really used it since. I try to work out all the rod diagrams, and boy am I getting good at them. Jenny, at the Singapore Forum board, is a great help if I am hopelessly stuck. All problems at this level can be solved without using algebra and Jenny is very helpful for teaching people how to set up the rod diagrams. (singaporemath.com) I also am learning much along with my daughters. I think Saxon is also a great program and a few of my homeschooling friends' kids are doing very well with it. I am going to look into the Russian Math program too.

Rod diagrams are another term for bar models! Honestly, the only thing I did with the Singapore program was to follow it. This is what a day at our kitchen table looked like: First a warm up. At first this consisted of basic facts practice. Usually a worksheet of facts isolated by family (ie: just 9's in multiplication) until enough families were learned to combine them. The text presented them this way as well. Eventually we did our multiplication and division randomly mixed and often multiplication facts presented as missing factors 9 X ___=72. Sometimes the children practiced on a hand held device called "Math Shark" or used flash cards. After the children mastered their multiplication and division facts the warm up was several problems from the series that were difficult for them. These problems came from prior days' instruction and I often changed the story slightly and always changed the numbers. We would repeat "types" of problems each day until these problems became routine and easy to solve. Also, once they learned to compute equivalent fractions and reduce fractions to lowest terms I would have them do a warm up of these types of problems until I saw mastery of the procedure. This part of our lesson took about 5-10 minutes. The second phase of our Kitchen Table Math consisted of 1 or 2 pages of Intensive Practice from a book one level below the text. For example we are working in book 4A but are working in Intensive Practice book 3B. I found this was a great way to provide extra review and also not overdosing on the topic currently being studied in the text. Also parts of IP are quite challenging and having extra skills did not hurt. This part took about 15 minutes. The third part was the actual lesson in the text. The children worked orally and on white boards. They completed most of the practice exercises. Sometimes if I saw they had mastery, they only completed a few. We also completed every word problem using bar modeling if appropriate. This took 10-20 minutes. The final section of our lesson consisted of the children completing the corresponding workbook page(s) independently usually taking 5-20 minutes. I reviewed their work and had the children correct errors immediately. That's it!
LoneRangerHomeschoolerReportsIncredibleMathProgress 11 Apr 2006 - 20:55 CatherineJohnson
Lone Ranger just left this report on her daughter's progress using Singapore Math:
I started homeschooling my daughter in August 2004. She had been in public school since kindergarten and was a rising 4th grader when we started homeschooling. She had suffered through 3 years of "Math Their Way" and then 1 year of "Everyday Math" before I woke up to the fact that she was not learning math well. Her third grade test scores showed her to be working at the 50% in math. Well, after one year of homeschooling using only Singapore Math Levels 2B- half of 4A and supplementing with Singapore Math's Intensive Practice her total math score on the Iowa Test of Basic skills is now at the 99%!! More importantly her confidence, fluency, and ability to work through difficult problems have gone through the ceiling as well. Happy 4th of July - Lone Ranger
Congratulations!
That is incredible.
Your daughter has moved from the 50 percentile to the 99th in 11 months.
Incredible.
Good work!
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This should give those of us who aren't working in math-related fields more confidence about using Singapore Math with our kids.
It certainly does me--
Comments thread on what 'Lone Ranger' did with her daughter's math education & why.
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MoreFromLoneRanger 11 Apr 2006 - 20:55 CatherineJohnson
I wanted to make sure everyone saw this follow-up (I've added bullets & formatting because Jakob Nielsen told me to):
- I used Singapore math books 2B, 3A, 3B and half of 4A before having my daughter take the ITBS test Iowa Test of Basic Skills.
- She completed the 2B placement exam but took 3 times as much time to complete it as was recommended. I thought better to start her slightly below her level to build confidence, learn the rod diagrams, and build speed and fluency with her facts and basic procedures.
- We also used Intensive Practice books 2B, 3A, 3B, and part of 4A (not every problem though)
- I made the decison to use Singapore because through my research 2 titles kept appearing over and over: Saxon and Singapore. Saxon is expensive and did not seem to be a good fit for my youngest daughter. Singapore seemed to be the best one to try first, since I wouldn't be out a lot of money if it flopped! Not very scientific or glamorous but the truth. [ed: Saxon at Home School Center may not be more expensive; I'll check.]
- Once I worked with the program and saw the children's response to it I was sold.
- I am average in my math ability and studied through Trig in college. I think at first Singapore can be intimidating, but after working with it, I find it is fairly straightforward.
- I used the Instructor Guide for 2B and have not really used it since.
- I try to work out all the rod diagrams, and boy am I getting good at them. [ed: oh! are these what I call 'bar models'? If so, I'm getting incredibly good at them myself.]
- Jenny, at the Singapore Forum board, is a great help if I am hopelessly stuck. All problems at this level can be solved without using algebra and Jenny is very helpful for teaching people how to set up the rod diagrams. (singaporemath.com)
- I also am learning much along with my daughters. [ed. note: based in my own experience, I think it's a good idea for parents to learn & re-learn elementary maths along with their children.]
- I think Saxon is also a great program and a few of my homeschooling friends' kids are doing very well with it.
- I am going to look into the Russian Math program too.
LoneRangerHomeschoolerReportsIncredibleMathProgress
PriceComparisonSaxonSingapore 13 Nov 2005 - 18:47 CatherineJohnson
fyi
Assuming I've done my arithmetic right, Saxon Math is probably either the same price as Singapore Math, or cheaper.
This is not to make a case for Saxon over Singapore.
I have no idea which curriculum is better, or whether one curriculum works better for some kids and another works better for others.
The Singapore curriculum certainly moves much more quickly, and is more demanding by ... 2nd grade?
1st?
If I'd had the nerve I would have gone with Singapore.
Saxon has worked great for us, so I'm a fan, & plan to remain a fan.
But it hasn't bumped Christopher up to the 99th percentile in math skills, that's for sure.
price comparison:
Saxon Math 6/5 (5th grade)
3 books: textbook, answer book, tests and worksheet book
$69.50 at Saxon Math web site
$51.48 at Homeschool Super Center
Singapore Math 4A & 4B (roughly: 3rd or 4th grade): 'small package'
$8.00 4A textbook
$8.00 4A workbook
$8.50 4A Intensive Practice
$6.80 gr 4-6 Answer Book
$8.00 4B textbook
$8.00 4B workbook
$8.50 4B Intensive Practice
$55.80 total Singapore Math 4A & 4B
Singapore Math 4A & 4B w/Home Instructor's Guide
$55.80
$14.95 Home Instructor's Guide
$70.75 Singapore Math 4A & 4B & Home Instructor's Guide
Singapore Math 4A & 4B 'the works'
2 textbooks, 2 workbooks, 2 intensive practice books, 1 'Challenging Word Problems' book, answer book, home instructor's guide
$70.75
$7.80 Challenging Word Problems [I love this book!]
$78.55 total, Singapore Math 'the works'
Singapore Math 4A (one semester)
$46.25, roughly
bang for the buck
Singapore publishes its textbooks by the semester, Saxon by the year.
So if you're going to experiment with a curriculum to see how it goes before making a commitment, it's cheaper to start with Primary Mathematics, U.S. Edition.
Once you're committed, however, you'll end up spending about the same for either one.
Unless you get fancy and start ordering all the Singapore Math extras.
Which you will.
update
OK, ktm readers are much more disciplined than I am.
see Comments
ChallengingWordProblems 07 Jul 2005 - 22:16 CatherineJohnson
Here's where to order Singapore Math Challenging Word Problems Book 3 if you're interested.
I love them.
I've done all of Book 3 myself, and will start Book 4 when I'm finished with Russian Math.
UPDATE 10-4-2006: I've only done a handful of the Book 4 problems, but I have begun to create a complete, hand-drawn solution manual. Don't ask me why. I was in Cambridge last spring, cruising Bob Slate Stationer's, when I spotted an expensive spiral-bound acid-free quadrille paper notebook that cried out to become a solution manual for Challenging Word Problems Book 4.
So I'm making a solution manual.
- almost 300 problems per book
- coherent groupings of like problems with like
- each problem set divided into a less difficult & more difficult group
- each problem set opens with 3 worked-out bar models
- all answers (in numbers, not bar models) in back


source:
artstuff.net
ChristopherOnSingaporeMath 08 Jul 2005 - 00:02 CatherineJohnson
Christopher managed to bargain me down today.
Instead of doing:
- Megawords 2, Worksheet 10-J
- Saxon Math 8/7 Lesson 11 Mixed Practice
- Saxon Math 8/7 Lesson 12 Warm Up
- Saxon Math 8/7 Lesson 12 Lesson
- Saxon Math 8/7 Lesson 12 Lesson Practice
- Math Olympiads: 1 problem
he's doing:
- Saxon Math 8/7 Lesson 12 Mental Math
- Primary Mathematics 3A Workbook, problems 8, 9, & 10
So maybe he has a future as an agent.
He just looked up from his bar modeling and said, 'I like the problems in Singapore Math.'
I said, 'You do?'
'Yeah.'
'How come?'
'They're not stupid.'
No idea what that means.
update
Christopher got all 3 of his bar model problems right today. (ummm....no, he didn't. He flubbed the arithmetic on the first one, but he got the bar model almost exactly right.)
I checked his answers & models, and when we got to the 3rd problem, he said confidently, 'This one's a two-parter.'
I was happy to hear that.
I think this signals a new category inside his mind.
- one-part problems
- two-part problems
He can tell the difference!
what bar models do for your brain
I'm trying to figure out how to write about bar models and what I think they do for my 'math brain.'
It's incredibly difficult to articulate, and will involve printing out sample bar models, scanning them back into iPhoto, and reducing the image size...so it will be awhile.
But I'll get there.
For the time being, I'll say that I could do the 3-variable problem from Primary 6 that Carolyn posted using algebra.
But I couldn't do it using a bar model.
There's a reason for that, but I'm going to need visuals to express it.
OTOH, once I'd done the problem algebraically, I realized how to interpret the (correct) bar model I'd drawn--thanks to the Math Olympiads problems I did this weekend.
So today's hypothesis is that the perfect 'problem-solving' curriculum for me would be an amalgam of PRIMARY MATHEMATICS & MATH OLYMPIADS.
math-heads & word-heads
Carolyn has mentioned that mathematicians think facility with geometry may be a good indicator of mathematical talent.
I wouldn't be remotely surprised to find out that's true, if only because of the connection between spatial-visual ability & maths. (I've decided I like 'maths' better than 'math.' fyi)
I don't remember having trouble with any of the high school math I took. (Maths!) It may have been an easy curriculum, I don't know.
But I do remember having lots of fun with algebra. The X's and the Y's and all the neatly stacked-up linear equations....it all just felt right.
I could still solve a two-variable equation 30 years later, without even having to think about it.
This has made me wonder if there is something 'word-like' about standard algebra.
Temple, btw, absolutely could not learn algebra.
She's a brilliant person, but algebra was out.
'I couldn't make a mental picture of it,' she told me. 'It was too abstract.'
I have to remember to ask how she did with geometry the next time we talk.
SingaporeWordProblemSampler4 14 Jul 2005 - 03:20 CarolynJohnston
Here are solutions to the problems in SingaporeWordProblemSampler3.
As usual I am going to post a random sample from Primary Mathematics Challenging Word Problems, levels 3 through 6 -- but there are actually extra-challenging word problems in special sections, and today I'll put up some of those.
Primary 3: On Valentine's Day, a teacher gave 37 students 7 candy hearts each. If she had 3 boxes of 100 candy hearts each, how many candy hearts did she have left?
This next one shows how early Singapore Math starts to introduce algebraic word problems.
Primary 4: A farmer had twice as many ducks as chickens. After he had sold 413 ducks and another 19 ducks died, he had half as many ducks as chickens left. How many ducks did he have left?
Primary 5: Laura had 400 stamps. She gave 3/20ths of them to Sam, 5/16s of them to Joe, and 1/15th of the remainder to Jim. How many stamps did she have left?
And now the one we've been dreading.... AAAGH!
I would actually never give this one to a kid who wasn't really fond of puzzles. It's the only way to approach this problem.. fiddle around with it till you get a handle on it.
Primary 6: The ratios of the number of chairs to the number of tables in Halls A and B respectively are 5:2 and 6:1 respectively. The total number of chairs and tables in Hall B is three times that in Hall A. What is the ratio of the number of tables in Hall A to the number of chairs in Hall B?
AnnouncingSolutionsToSingaporeSampler4 17 Jul 2005 - 03:55 CarolynJohnston
This post is just a pointer to the solutions page for the SingaporeWordProblemSampler4, which consisted entirely of problems considered by the Singaporeans to be challenging.
Didn't want to leave anybody hanging if they're still paying attention! But a session of basic algebra with Young Ben has done me in for the evening. I'll be along soon with more Challenging Word Problems from Singapore -- but maybe not quite so challenging as these were.
JapaneseMiddleSchoolEntranceExam 13 Nov 2005 - 14:47 CatherineJohnson
Anne just asked about a bliki post or an article comparing a Japanese to an American assessment test showing a 3-year gap between there & here.
I don't think we've had a post on this exact topic, but I do have the URL for a set of sample problems on the Japanese middle school entrance exam.
You can also download or purchase a CD of these problems:
The story problems provided in the software "World Math Challenge Volume 1" are translated from Japan's Junior High School math placement test. This test is given to 12 year olds and each section of the full test consists of 225 story problems. Students are given a time limit for each problem ranging from 1 to 5 minutes. If completed within the time provided, the 225 story problems require over 8 hours to complete.
The problems are logic-based and consist of about 20 different types of story problems. The point of this site is to begin providing quality math content based on Japanese (maybe a world) standards. The Japanese continue to place among the top 3 countries world-wide in terms of their students' math abilities. The US was recently ranked #14 in international math placement among the industrial nations. We think that US students should be exposed to international level math content and this site may represents the first step.
Constructivists have claimed that TIMSS video studies of Japanese math classes show them using constructivist pedagogy.
This claim has been rebutted by Alan Siegel of the Courant Institute of Mathematical Science at NYU in Telling Lessons from the TIMSS Videotape: remarkable teaching practices as recorded from eighth-grade mathematics classes in Japan, Germany and the US (pdf file)
The fact that Japanese 12-year olds are given timed math tests tells me that Japanese schools do not subscribe to constructivist doctrine.
Japanese-online
Free registration required to view assessment problems.
sample problems from Japanese middle school assessment test
Q1 How many 'C' balls does it take to balance one 'A' ball? (2 minutes)

Q2 Jenny wanted to purchase 2 dozen pencils and a pen. Those items cost $8.45 and she did not have enough money. So she decided to purchase 8 fewer pencils and paid $6.05. How much was a pen? (2 minutes)

Q3 Hose A takes 45 minutes to fill the bucket with water. Hose B can do the same in 30 minutes. If you use both hoses, how long will it take to fill the bucket? (1 minute)
Q4 A job takes 30 days to complete by 8 people. How long will the job take when it is done by 20 people? 2 minutes
Look at these time limits.
A 1-minute limit doesn't give you a lot of time to guess and check.
International Red Cross Symbol for Guess and Check
NAEP's "hard" 8th grade problems are Singapore's 5th grade problems
....my own school district – Montgomery County, Maryland – is one of the most affluent, highly educated counties in America, yet our gifted students scored at the level of Singapore’s average student. NAEP classifies its problems as “easy,” “medium,” or “hard.” I benchmarked the “hard” 8th grade problems, examining NAEP’s highest level of expectation for 8th grade math. Most of these “hard” 8th grade problems are at the level of Singapore’s grade 5 – or lower.
[snip]
8th grade problem, NAEP
Consider: In one problem, for example, the student is shown a “Lunch Menu” with items like Onion Soup for $.80 and Ice Cream for $1.10. The question asks: “What is
the total cost of Soup of the Day, Beefburger with Fries, and Cola?”
This is considered a “hard” eighth grade problem.
3rd grade problems, Singapore
But Singapore has harder problems than this in grade 3....
1 ) 5 oranges cost $2.25. What is the cost of 12 oranges? ________
2 ) I want to buy a calculator for $29.70 and a watch for $32.00. I have $28.50. How
much more money do I need?
(1) $26.20
(2) $30.80
(3) $33.20
(4) $32.70
Both of these are two-step math problems. They illustrate Singapore’s expectation
that all children should acquire mastery of the math skills needed for algebra and
beyond. NAEP’s expectation is that children need to be able to order take-out from
McDonald’s.
Testimony of John Hoven On Behalf of The Center for Education Reform At the National Public Forum on the Draft 2004 Mathematics Framework (pdf file)
WillinghamOnLearningModalities 22 Jul 2005 - 20:14 CarolynJohnston
From Daniel Willingham on learning modality theory, an explanation of why learning modality theory might make sense from a teacher's viewpoint:
There are two ways that a teacher might see what looks like evidence for modality theory in the classroom. First, a teacher who believes the theory may interpret ambiguous situations as support for the theory. For example, a teacher might verbally explain to a student - several times - the idea of borrowing in subtraction without success. Then the teacher draws a diagram that more explicitly represents that the 3 in the tens place really represents 30. Suddenly, the concept clicks for the student. The teacher thinks "Aha. He's a visual learner. Once I drew the diagram, he understood."
But the more likely explanation is that the diagram would have helped any student because it is a good way to represent a difficult concept. The teacher interprets the student's success in terms of modality theory because she has been told the theory is correct and because it seems to explain her experience.
Willingham offers the following suggestion: teach to the best modality for representing the idea, not to the student's best modality.
But what if there are multiple modalities to choose from, for an idea? More generally, what if there are a whole host of different ways to represent an idea, and the kid's not getting any of them?
I ran into that situation recently, when teaching Ben how to do simple problems by adding and subtracting constants on both sides of an equation. Actually, trying to help Ben get the hang of this has taken quite a bit of effort this week, and I don't think it's a hard idea. I've got kinesthetic, visual, and auditory ways of teaching it, too. I could even sing it, though that's getting a bit ridiculous.
For the kinesthetic learner, you could get out a balancing scale or use Bornstein manipulatives. You could draw pictures of pan balances for a visual learner. You can explain verbally, as I did repeatedly, that what you're doing to solve the problem x + 4 = 13 is to 'undo the addition' of the 4 on the left hand side of the equation. If none of this works, what do you do then?
Try each modality over again, I suppose. Round 2: in case he was a kinesthetic learner, I had him copy each step I made in his own handwriting (laugh, if you will, but it works for me when I do it). In case he was visual, I drew pan balances again, next to the equivalent equation: no dice. "Subtracting the 4 is applying the inverse operation to get the x by itself," I said, auditory-like, but that didn't help either.
All this time, of course, he was able to do the problems by repeating the steps I made; he is a fabulous rote learner (is 'rote' a modality? If not, it should be). But I could tell he wasn't really getting the gist of it. Finally, in exasperation, I said, "Look, Ben, what's the opposite of adding 4?
"Subtracting 4."
"Good! And what's the opposite of subtracting 13?"
"Adding 13."
"Good. All you're doing to get the x by itself is doing the opposite of adding or subtracting the number that's with it," I said, but I didn't even get it all out before he said, "OH! I get it!"
And that's the sound I love to hear.
So, knowing Ben's best learning modality didn't help, and wouldn't have helped. I wish teaching, and learning, were so predictable that all you needed to do to teach a whole class reliably was to know what each kid's best learning style was. But I think that learning is inherently unpredictable. The trick is to be able to hit the teaching problem from a bunch of different angles, and you need to know lots of different ways to present the information. The more, the better (by the way, this is a major part of what Liping Ma's Chinese elementary math experts do with their release time; sit around together, thinking up new ways to teach problems to tough cases).
As an aside, I have never been able to figure out Ben's best learning modality (aside from 'rote'. His raw memory is unbelievable). As a person on the autism spectrum, he's supposed to be a visual learner; this is accepted theory to such a degree that teachers will assume he needs to learn visually, but it's not always the right approach.
What Ben really is, is an unpredictable learner. You never know what's going to be easy, where he'll get stuck, and what will unstick him. He's the kind of kid who keeps a teacher on her toes.
LovelessOnTracking 13 Nov 2005 - 19:56 CatherineJohnson
Loveless' survey of the research on tracking is interesting, especially given the philosophical opposition to all tracking that seems to be part of constructivist pedagogy:
Slavin’s support largely resting on the benefits uncovered for grouping in mathematics in the upper grades of elementary school.
I'm confused by the phrase upper grades of elementary school.
Does this mean 4th and 5th grade?
Or is middle school considered technically part of elementary school?
Here in Irvington, de-tracking students was part and parcel of bringing in TRAILBLAZERS.
Differentiated instruction is the buzz word.
tracking good for talented students?
Kulik finds that tailoring course content to ability level yields a consistently positive effect on the achievement of high ability students. Academic enrichment programs produce significant gains. Accelerated programs, where students tackle the curriculum of later grades, produce the largest gains of all. Accelerated gifted students dramatically outperform similar students in non-accelerated classes. Slavin omits studies of these programs from his analysis. He argues that the gains, though large, may be an artifact of the programs’ selection procedures, that schools admit the best students into these programs and reject the rest, thereby biasing the results.38
Three things are striking about the Slavin- Kulik debate. First, the disagreement hinges on whether tracking is neutral or beneficial. Neither researcher claims to have evidence that tracking harms achievement, of students generally or of students in any single track. Second, accepting Slavin or Kulik’s position on between-class grouping depends on whether one accepts as legitimate the studies of academically enriched and accelerated programs. Including these studies leads Kulik to the conclusion that tracking promotes achievement. Omitting them leads Slavin to the conclusion that tracking is a non-factor.
Third, in terms of policy, Slavin and Kulik are more sharply opposed on the tracking issue than their other points of agreement would imply. Slavin states that he is philosophically opposed to tracking, regarding it as inegalitarian and anti-democratic. Unless schools can demonstrate that tracking helps someone, Slavin reasons, they should quit using it. Kulik’s position is that since tracking benefits high achieving students and harms no one, its abolition would be a mistake.
So....just a few short paragraphs ago, Loveless has told us that inconclusive findings have to be interpreted with caution.
Is this finding of 'no harm done' a positive finding?
Or is it an inconclusive finding?
And why aren't we told?
we need editors!
Now that I'm reading think-tank & NRC pubications, I have a Firm View on the question of book editors.
Every book needs one.
I don't care how smart the author is.
talented kids need accelerated classes
High School and Beyond (HSB) is a study that began with tenth graders in 1980. The National Education Longitudinal Study (NELS) started with eighth graders in 1988. These two studies followed tens of thousands of students through school, recording their academic achievement, courses taken, and attitudes toward school. The students’ transcripts were analyzed, and their teachers and parents were interviewed. The two massive databases have sustained a steady stream of research on tracking.
Three findings stand out. High track students in HSB learn more than low track students, even with prior achievement and other pertinent influences on achievement statistically controlled. Not surprising, perhaps, but what’s staggering is the magnitude of the difference. On average, the high track advantage outweighs even the achievement difference between the student who stays in school until the senior year and the student who drops out.40
I say again: think tanks need editors.
I believe what he is saying here is that the gap between the high & low track student in the HSB study was larger than the track between high school graduates and high school drop-outs.
it figures
African-American students enjoy a 10% advantage over white students in being assigned to the high track. This contradicts the charge that tracking is racist. Considered in tandem with the high track advantage just described, it also suggests that abolishing high tracks would disproportionately penalize African-American students, especially high achieving African-American students.
A worthy mission for the fuzzies, de-tracking the whole entire country.
Thanks, guys.
tracking & the achievement gap
Moreover, NELS shows that achievement differences between African-American and white students are fully formed by the end of eighth grade. The race gap reaches its widest point right after elmentary and middle school, when students have experienced ability grouping in its mildest forms. The gap remains unchanged in high school, when tracking between classes is most pronounced.41
Sophie's choice
Third, NELS identifies apparent risks in detracking. Low-achieving students seem to learn more in heterogeneous math classes, while high and average achieving students suffer achievement losses—and their combined losses outweigh the low achievers’ gains. In terms of specific courses, eighth graders of all ability levels learn more when they take algebra in tracked classes rather than heterogeneously grouped classes. For survey courses in eighth grade math, heterogeneous classes are better for low achieving students than tracked classes.42
These last findings are important because we don’t know very much about academic achievement in heterogeneous classes. When the campaign against tracking picked up steam in the late 1980s, tracking was essentially universal. Untracked schools didn’t exist in sufficient numbers to evaluate whether abandoning tracking for a full regimen of mixed ability classes actually works. The NELS studies that attempt to evaluate detracked classes, which thus far have been restricted to mathematics, point toward a possible gain for low achieving students and a possible loss for average and above average students, but these findings should be regarded as tentative.43
grouping versus tracking?
The elementary school practices of both within-class and cross-grade ability grouping are supported by research. The tracking research is more ambiguous but not without a few concrete findings.
Will somebody please get the Fordham Foundation an editorial staff?
What is grouping?
What is tracking?
Why aren't these terms defined?
OK, I'm assuming 'grouping' means grouping kids according to ability within the same class, as Christopher's school does for reading.
I'm assuming 'tracking' means creating separate classrooms with separate teachers for kids of differing ability.
Singapore vs U.S.
Assigning students to separate classes by ability and providing them with the same curriculum has no effect on achievement, positive or negative, and the neutral effect holds for high ,middle, and low achievers. When the curriculum is altered, tracking appears to benefit high ability students.
This is exactly what happens in Singpoare--separate classes, same curriculum--but in Singapore this practice has a large positive effect.
race & income
When it comes to race, the disparities are real, but, as just noted, they vanish when students’ prior achievement is considered. A small class effect remains, however. Students from poor families are more likely to be assigned to low tracks than wealthier students with identical achievement scores. This could be due to class discrimination, different amounts of parental influence on track assignments, or other unmeasured factors.44
what do black parents say?
A study conducted by the Public Agenda Foundation found that "opposition to heterogeneous grouping is as strong among African-American parents as among white parents, and support for it is generally weak."45 If tracking harmed African-American students, one would not expect these sentiments.
choose your poison
The public labeling of low track students may cause embarrassment, but the public display of academic deficiencies undoubtedly has a similar effect in heterogeneous classrooms. There, a low ability student’s performance is compared daily to that of high-achieving classmates.46
At our school the tracking-obsession among the kids is brutal. There's a huge amount of taunting; at least, there has been when I've been around. 'I'm a 4!' 'You're a 2!'
Yuck.
jumped the track
A study of transcripts from five Maryland high schools showed 59.9% of students changed math levels during their high school careers, 65.4% in science. A national survey of high school principals reports substantial movement among tracks, especially upward (see Table 7). But an analysis of NELS data found that only 16.5% of students who were in low-ability classes in 8th grade went on to take either geometry or Algebra II by 10th grade (in comparison to 81.0% of 8th graders in high-ability classes).
Which reminds me, I've been meaning to post the strange goings-on with Phase 3 & Phase 4 this spring.....
you don't say
Without a push, a lot of students remain in low tracks who are capable of moving up.
Singapore vs. U.S. redux
It appears that high tracks are taught by better qualified teachers, however, in the sense of having teachers more schooled in content know-ledge.48 High school principals are inclined to assign teachers who know advanced subject matter to teach advanced subjects.
Another glaring difference.... (more on this another day).
Catholic schools
Reba Page’s 1991 study, Lower Track Classrooms, painstakingly reports on the daily activities of eight low track classes, documenting how they often function as caricatures of high tracks, how teachers and students in low tracks make deals to not push each other too hard so that they can cope with their environment. Low tracks may be used as holding tanks for a school’s most severe behavior problems. Even under the best of conditions, low tracks are difficult classrooms.
Intellectually stimulating low track classrooms do exist, however, and researchers have found the most productive of them in Catholic schools. Margaret Camarena and Adam Gamoran have described low track classrooms where good teaching, lively discussions, and ample learning take place. In 1990, Linda Valli published her study of a heavily tracked Catholic high school in an urban community. The school’s course designations publicly proclaimed each student’s track level. Textbooks and instruction were adapted for each track. Yet Valli discovered that "a curriculum of effort" permeated the entire school, even the lowest tracks. The school culture centered around academic progress, and the tracking system was but another facet of the school that served this aim. Students of all abilities were aggressively pushed to learn as much as they could. Every year, low track students were boosted up a level. By the senior year, the lowest track no longer existed. A judicious tracking system teaches low track students what they need to know and moves them out of the low track as quickly as possible.51
I hate like the dickens seeing Catholic schools go out of business.
WorkingWithTeachersAndPrincipals 12 Dec 2005 - 16:25 CatherineJohnson
I make no bones that parents whose children are struggling with a poor mathematics curriculum should find a good curriculum and teach that one instead.
But that raises the issue of what happens politically and socially when a parent rejects a school's math curriculum.
Good question.
it doesn't have to be a battle
My own experience this year was terrific.
Of course, I wasn’t rejecting a curriculum the school had embraced; I was rejecting a curriculum the school had rejected (SRA Math, which is being replaced by Trailblazers).
Even so, I was using a different curriculum at home, and everyone knew it. The reason they knew it was that I printed out copies of the Table of Contents for Christopher to take in and show his teacher.
She was great. She admired all the lesson headings, and told Christopher, “All the parents should be doing this.” It was incredibly sweet of her.
At one point I sent an email saying I was having trouble getting Christopher to cooperate (that’s an understatement) and asking if she could tell him he needed to do my homework, too.
She did.

When we told her, in January, that our goal was to move him to Phase 4, the accelerated track, she blanched. There were already a number of kids in Phase 4 who were struggling; the class was oversubscribed. One child had just been moved ‘down’ to Phase 3, and it had been upsetting to all concerned.
She’d never thought of Christopher as ‘a Phase 4 kid,’ she said. She didn’t want to see him try Phase 4 and fail. (Neither did we.)
It took her about 2 minutes to decide she probably could think of Christopher as a Phase 4 kid, and the reason she could think of him as a Phase 4 kid was that ‘you’ll give him the support he needs.’ She saw clearly that Christopher’s dad and I would do whatever we needed to do to help him succeed—and she saw that we would be taking responsibility for the move. If it didn’t work out, we weren’t going to be back in the school yelling at people. (True.)
Once she'd turned her point of view around 180 degrees, she told us that if we were going to move him we needed to do it now. Suddenly it was our turn to blanch; my plan was to move him in the fall, after we'd had another summer to work on his math.
She said, in so many words, that my plan was going to be problematic. For years the middle school has been hammering the elementary school about placing too many kids in the accelerated class, giving inflated grades, etc., etc., or so I gather. ('Hammering' is not the word she used or implied.) The middle school had made crystal clear to teachers & to parents that they would be placing fewer kids in Phase 4 come fall, not more. Which meant they probably weren't going to think Christopher, who'd been in Phase 3 from day one, and who'd done badly in 4th grade math, was an obvious candidate for the accelerated track.
As she put it, 'They aren't going to know him the way we do.' If we wanted to do it, she said, we needed to do it now.
We said, OK, then, we'll do it now.
She got Christopher moved to Phase 4 within the week.
Not only did she support us in doing something she didn’t necessarily think was a good idea, she told us how to work the ropes. Then she worked the ropes for us.
using TIMSS
Christopher's second math teacher, in Phase 4, was just as terrific. She once sent home a formal, hand-written explanation of the compound interest problems in SRA Math. Yes, it’s mortifying to reveal that I needed a hand-written explanation of compound interest, but there you have it. It was a darn good explanation, too. Later on I learned she’d been an accountant for 15 years before changing careers.
The TIMSS data on U.S. students is a big part of the ‘secret’ to working well with your school district when you object to the math curriculum. The first time I mentioned to our principal, Don, that I thought Christopher maybe ought to move to the accelerated track, he got that tight not-now-not-ever look on his face administrators always get when parents start bugging them to do things they don’t think they ought to do.
I backed off, because in fact Christopher wasn’t ready to move to the accelerated track. But I publicly raised the issue of why the accelerated kids were using a book that was a full year ahead of the rest of the kids without any of us parents having been told.
Naturally it turned out Don hadn’t been told, either; he’s an interim principal. He looked into it, and was obviously pretty dismayed at what he found (not worth going into here).
When we sat down and talked about it, I took the tack that I didn’t think Christopher is Secretly Gifted And Talented In Math; I just wanted him to be on the same track kids are on in high-achieving countries. Which is true. Here are the Magic Words to use with principals, teachers, administrators, & school boards:
In high-achieving countries, students take and master algebra in the 8th grade.
Here in America, only the accelerated kids take and master algebra in the 8th grade.
I told Don: if kids in Germany pass Algebra 1 in 8th grade, I want Christopher to pass Algebra 1 in 8th grade, too.
He had exactly zero problems with that, and the minute Christopher was ready to move to the faster class, he moved him up.
The fact is, our problems in math ed are national, not local, and everybody knows it.
Everybody knows it, but nobody knows how to fix it. Ideological constructivists think they know how to fix it, but your basic principal and/or teacher is living in the real world, facing real children and real parents who blame them when math scores are bad. They’re on the firing line. I don’t think too many principals & teachers truly believe ‘reform math’ is going to be the miracle we’ve been looking for for the last 100 years.
So basically, his feeling was: I’d like to see all our kids learning at the same rate as kids in Singapore. So would I. I don't blame him for our school having the same problems every other school has.
giving respect where respect is due
Once I started teaching Christopher my own hand-picked curriculum, I was on the firing line. For awhile there I was actually having him do the homework I assigned instead of the homework he brought home from school…..so exactly whose fault was it going to be if he didn’t succeed?
It was going to be my fault.
Everyone sensed this. I had moved out of the potentially ticked-off parent category and into the junior colleague category.
That’s another thing.
I also developed a healthy new respect for the teachers he’d had thus far. I couldn’t teach Topic One out of SRA Math, but all of them had managed to teach him a huge amount of math from SRA, which he had retained. His math knowledge from 2nd and 3rd grades was solid as a rock.
So I stopped being a critic, and became a teacher. That meant I asked the school’s teachers for help & advice, and made clear I respected their seniority. Christopher felt the same way. When he told me, ‘Mrs. Panitz is a better teacher than you,’ I sent her an email letting her know.
bullet points
For me, in this school district, putting together public school & home teaching worked during the one year I've done it. Would my approach work everywhere? Most places? I don't know. What I do know is that your basic teacher went into the profession because he or she wanted kids to succeed. Teachers are rooting for the kids, not against them. If you're helping your child succeed, their inclination is going to be to root for you, too.
My (tentative) advice thus far:
- tell your teachers what you’re doing, within limits. I didn’t announce the fact that I was substituting my homework for the school's, and I don’t think I should have done so. It would have been nervewracking for Christopher's teacher—it was nervewracking for me—and since I was going to do it anyway, why get her worried?
- respect the teacher's experience and authority. Show respect even if you're a math major working in a mathematics-related career. Your math knowledge greatly exceeds the teacher's, but your pedagogical content knowledge almost certainly does not.
- ask for help (but don’t suck up lots of the teacher's time)
- tell your child his teachers are good, it's the curriculum, or the too-slow American track, that's the problem
- whenever you talk to teachers or principals, keep the focus on international standings, not local failings
keywords: afterschooling politics of math math wars conflicts with teachers conflicts with schools
EnglandVsAmericaVsSingapore 13 Nov 2005 - 18:29 CatherineJohnson
The British report, Where will the next generation of UK mathematicians come from?, (pdf file) includes this passage about the TIMSS study (Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study):
[a score of] 625 was fixed as the “Advanced benchmark”. In the “Comparison group” of countries [essentially, all countries with advanced economies], 13% of 14 year olds scored at this higher level – which might be taken as a rough indication of those who are well-positioned to subsequently study mathematics and other highly numerate subjects with some prospect of success post-16, or at university.
Naturally some countries in the “Comparison group” had a larger percentage performing at or above this level, while some fared worse. A mere 7% of the USA sample scored at or above this ”Advanced benchmark” level. And the International average was just 6%. But the results for England should have struck Ministers and officials as far more disturbing: the percentage of English 14 year olds scoring above the “Advanced benchmark” was just 5%!
I found this confusing, because the report tosses around a number of figures:
- 5 to 10% of any population are 'GATE' (gifted and talented) in maths
- the top 25% 'most able' of any population 'is likely to include most of those who have the potential ultimately to become competent workers in those areas that increasingly require serious mathematical skills – including mathematics teaching'
- and, finally, students who score 625 or above on TIMSS and are deemed to be 'well-positioned' to study math &/or 'other highly numerate subjects' (e.g., economics) in college
My question was: if the U.S. had 7% of its students in this above-625 level, and the developed world's average was 13%, how bad is our 7%?
And what was Singapore's number?
Well, I just found it, or something close to. It's high.
Forty-six percent of Singapore’s students were among the top 10 percent of all test takers, five
times the 9 percent of U.S. students. Even a Singaporean student in the bottom quartile of
Singaporean students outperformed more than two-thirds of U.S. students (Mullis, et al., 2000). In
2003, Singapore’s eighth-grade students retained the top average score among student from 46
countries (Mullis, et al., 2004).
I still don't know how a score above 625 relates to the various percentiles being bandied about. I'm assuming students in the top 10% on TIMSS received scores above 625, but I don't know. If that's true, it looks like almost half of Singapore's students could succeed in college-level mathematics or 'other highly numerate subjects.'
Only 7 to 9% of U.S. students are in a position to major in math, science, economics, or even the 'soft' sciences like experimental psychology & political science (which is pure math these days). I don't know anything about accounting, but these figures don't sound great for how many high school students are prepared to pursue accounting careers, either. And since calculus is still an entry requirement for business schools, we've got a pretty thin slice of the population on-track for B-school entry.
So I'm guessing we'll be seeing an upswing in applications to law school in 2011.
What the United States Can Learn From Singapore's World-Class Mathematics System (and what Singapore can learn from the United States): An Exploratory Study (link takes you to recommended reading page, which includes a comment & an attached pdf file of the full report)
update
OK, I'm losing patience with online pdf files, so I'll post these links and go clean up my desk (and my floor).
The 'big' report on the 2003 TIMSS seems to be this one: TIMSS 2003 Technical Report (pdf files for all chapters) Martin, M.O., Mullis, I.V.S., & Chrostowski, S.J. (Eds.)(2004)
I haven't been able to track down the percentile that corresponds to a score of 625, although it strikes me that I may have 'sufficient information,' as the story problems put it, to figure it out myself. (If we know how many Singapore students scored in the top 10%, and we know the average score of Singapore students--does that do it? I don't know! I will have to investigate!)
I did find this table showing average scores for each country (England was ommitted for some unspecified reason, & I don't see France on here, either....we may be lousy at math in this country, but we also have a glaring deficiency in Information Architecture....).
Singapore's average score is 605; ours is 504.
update, update
OK, now I need some math help. (Apparently I am not in the 10% or 25% or heaven-only-knows-what percent who is in position to major in economics in college any time soon.)
If the average score of Singapore kids is 505, and 625 is a reasonable cut-off for students in position to major in 'highly numerate' subjects in college...that means that the 46% of Singapore kids who scored in the top 10% could not possibly all have scored above 625, right? (Unless the distribution were extremely odd, of course.)
Am I missing a step?
update 3
Good grief.
I used the wrong average for Singapore.
Their average is 605, not 505.
I realize an average is not a median, but setting that aside, and making the mean stand in for the median just this once.....they've got half of their kids scoring 605 or better, just 15 points shy of the 625 cut-off.
Incredible.
Here's Carolyn's comment:
I think you're confusing two different populations here -- one is the population of all kids who took the test, and the other is the population of kids in Singapore who took the test.
The information you're missing is the standard deviation for all these populations -- the 'spread' of the bell curve. You can't figure it out without that bit of info.
Assuming that the distribution for the Singaporeans is a bell curve centered at 605, with a spread-out standard deviation (i.e. a 'fat' rather than 'narrow' bell curve, it is possible that 46% of the Singapore population earned a score above 625.
And it's likely (even without knowing the standard deviations!) that 46% of the Singapore kids were in the top 10% of the population of all kids who took the test, simply because the Singapore average was so high.
a word problem only the top 10% of 9 year olds can do
maths in England
maths in England, part 2
more maths in England, part 2
top students in England, US, & Singapore
why do kids like math?
Catherine's cousin talks about Everyday Math
Call for national debate on maths teaching GUARDIAN
Where will the next generation of UK mathematicians come from? (GOVT REPORT: pdf file)
HowAsiansAndWesternersThinkDifferently 29 Jul 2005 - 16:54 CatherineJohnson
I've mentioned Richard E. Nisbett's book The Geography of Thought a couple of times.
I can't possibly get into a whole long Thoughtfest about whether Asians actually do or do not think differently in some overarching way than Westerners....at least, not until I figure out reciprocals. (news flash: I've made progress on that front, thanks to Dan K!)
So here's what looks like a decent summary of the book (which I haven't read myself) in Education Review, and here's
what looks like an interesting critique |